Zuora, Inc. (NYSE:ZUO) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Chad Bennett: Okay. And then can you just talk about how the SIs, the channel performed in the quarter relative to kind of your updated kind of NRR and ARR guide, and if they are in fact performing relative to expectations and of the shortfall is direct sales.

Todd McElhatton: I don’t know that I would call it that either our direct or channel source pipeline didn’t materialize. And in fact, the top of the pipe has been healthier as ever, we ended the quarter very strong. We’re entering this quarter again, very strong. But again, we are seeing customers be very cautious before they make decisions. We are seeing in some cases where people are taking things through multiple levels of approvals, and they’re taking things for longer periods of time. But that being said, we’re also seeing areas where we did very well during the quarter. The first example that I would leave is, maybe companies that have a substantial need to shift their businesses towards subscription. Gannett was a very good example in the quarter.

Here’s a company that is certainly pivoting to be more reliant on subscription versus advertising. And you’re seeing they made a seven-figure commitment to the Zuora billing platform. You’re seeing one of the largest Japanese auto manufacturers committing to the Zuora billing platform making 13 out of 15 of the auto manufacturers now committed. You’re also seeing areas like Vivint, where on revenue automation, we can help customers be more efficient on how they manage their business. But that being said, we’re still hit as many other companies are with the macro headwinds of people being cautious on their spending.

Tien Tzuo: Chad, this is Tien. Just to jump in. I don’t want you to think that we have two distinct channels direct in SIs and they are independent. It’s not exactly how it works. We have a set of target accounts, and I would say our bet on large companies is really paying off it gives us the stability that we need in our business. It gives us the growth potential. But you’re seeing given the macro uncertainty they are just, it depends, right? If the media companies are moving forward, the tech companies might be a little bit slower. But in terms of direct versus SIs, this set of customers, we’re still reaching out to them direct. But every one of them, practically speaking, has one or more system integrators. They view as partners that they’re going to.

So it’s more of a co-selling environment. And so getting back to, when Todd says, we’ve learned from this and we could be more efficient, right, we’re able to balance our resources between, our SDR organization and our SI organization. And in terms of our target accounts, selling, in leverage the fact that our partners are already in the accounts, right, as a means to drive — continue to drive pipeline.

Chad Bennett: Got it. Thanks.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Adam Hotchkiss with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Adam Hotchkiss: You talked about customer cautiousness on one hand, but on the other hand, talked about the pipeline remaining really strong. Are you seeing that spending cautiousness being mirrored by business model transformation cautiousness towards subscription-based models? Are you continuing to hear customers seeing momentum there?

Tien Tzuo: I’d say the interesting thing is, we’re seeing almost a bifurcation in the business, right? A bifurcation of the deal, the bifurcation of the pipeline. And so you can see that really by some ways, by industry, but really by how important it is to the company. And so the media sector continues to buy, the manufacturing sector is saying we invested all this effort in IoT, we see vast pools of new revenue streams that we can go tap after. And some of these projects might even be smaller. We’re also seeing — we have a pretty broad product portfolio. So the parts of our product where we’re able to land a little bit quicker, including the Zephr acquisition that we did, or where the value proposition has a clear cost savings benefit.

A lot of times when our revenue product goes in, there’s a whole bunch of audit fees that are saved as an example, because once you automate a lot of the revenue recognition, you’re more resilient to mistakes, and you have a less of a need to audit every single transaction. And so those parts of our pipeline are continuing. The parts of our pipeline where — to simplify down, it’s a large investment now, over a long period of time where the benefit doesn’t accrue till 12 months out. Those are going to be put on hold, or more likely to be put on hold. We still have a few of those deals that are coming through because they’re so important. But because why is that these companies are saying, look, I don’t know where the economy is going to be in six months?

Is the Fed going to continue to raise interest rates? Am I going to see recession or not? And I need clarity of that picture before I’m able to make a large investment like this. Directly speaking, this is still something we want to do. We still need to get to a target percent of subscriptions that our business model in 2, 3, 5 years, but just the uncertainty that we’re seeing, in terms of where’s inflation going to be? Where’s employment going to be? Where is the Fed going to go? It is causing them to say, look, give us another 90 days before we are able to decide. And so what Todd’s done is baked that into saying, look, what if this uncertainty continues on, because certainly signs of that. And let’s make sure, we have we have a prudent guide.