Strawberry Fields REIT LLC (AMEX:STRW) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Strawberry Fields REIT LLC (AMEX:STRW) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript November 11, 2024

Operator: Good morning. My name is Ali and I will be your conference Operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Strawberry Fields REIT third quarter 2024 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, you have to press the star key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jeff Bajtner, our Chief Investment Officer. Sir, please go ahead.

Jeff Bajtner: Thank you and welcome to Strawberry Fields REIT’s third quarter 2024 earnings call. I am the Chief Investment Officer of the company and I focus on acquisitions and new deals, growing our operator base, and investor relations. On the call with me today are Moishe Gubin, our Chairman and CEO, and Greg Flamion, our CFO. On Friday, the company issued its 2024 third quarter results, which is available on the company’s Investor Relations website. Participants should be aware that this call is being recorded and listeners are advised that any forward-looking statements made on today’s call are based on management’s current expectations, assumptions and beliefs about Strawberry Fields REIT’s business and environment in which it operates.

These statements may include projections regarding future financial performance, dividends, acquisitions, investments, returns, financings, and may or may not reference other matters affecting the company’s business or the businesses of its tenants, including factors that are beyond its control. Additionally, references will be made during this call to non-GAAP financial results. Investors are encouraged to review these non-GAAP financial measures as well as an explanation and reconciliation of these measures to the comparable GAAP results included on the non-GAAP measure reconciliation page in our investment presentation. Now onto discussing Strawberry Fields REIT. While there are many current shareholders on the call, we also have new and prospective shareholders, and I’d like to share a little bit of background about the company.

The story began 21 years ago when Moishe Gubin, our Chairman and CEO, and Michael Blisko, one of our directors, purchased their first skilled nursing facility in Indiana. Once they found success with that first facility, they quickly bought a second and a third. Over the next nine years, they grew from that one facility to 33 facilities in Illinois and Indiana. In 2015 with those 33 facilities, Strawberry Fields REIT was created, and the company has grown significantly since then. As of September 30, the company owns and leases 114 facilities in nine states with over 12,800 beds, and as we get closer to year end, we look forward to growing this number. As it relates to this past quarter, I wanted to share some key highlights. The company collected 100% of contractual rents.

In July, the company filed a registration statement on Form S-3 with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In August, the SEC declared the registration statement effective and the company established an ATM program. Through this program, the company began selling shares to the public for the first time as we initially went public through a direct listing. These shares will be sold at the company’s discretion and the ATM program is expected to provide the company with additional financing flexibility by increasing the stock’s liquidity and facilitating growth. In August, the company completed the acquisition for two skilled nursing facilities with 254 licensed beds near San Antonio, Texas. The acquisition was for $15.25 million. The facilities are leased to the Tide Health Group, a new third party tenant in consulting.

These properties will increase the company’s annual base rents by $1.525 million and include annual escalators of 3%. In September, the company completed the acquisition of a property near Nashville, Tennessee comprised of an 83-bed skill nursing facility and a 23-bed assisted living facility. The acquisition was for $6.7 million. The property was added to an existing tenancy master lease and will increase the company’s annual rents by $670,000. As part of this deal, the company issued the sellers $3.1 million of Strawberry Fields REIT stock as consideration for the deal. Subsequent to quarter end, the company acquired an 86-bed skill nursing facility in Indianapolis, Indiana, marking our 115th facility. The acquisition was for $6 million.

The facility was added to an existing Indiana master lease and will increase annual rents by $600,000. The company also entered into a purchase and sale agreement to acquire eight skilled nursing facilities with 1,111 licensed beds located in Missouri for $87.5 million. The facilities are currently leased under a master lease agreement to a group of third party tenants. Lastly, our board of directors authorized a cash dividend of $0.14 a share, which is an increase of $0.01 a share from the prior quarter’s dividend. The dividend will be payable on December 30, 2024 to shareholders of record on Monday, December 16, 2024. This dividend will be our ninth consecutive quarter paying dividends, and in that time it will be our fourth increase. This represents a philosophy of the company to teach the market that our dividends can be relied upon.

I would now like to have Greg Flamion, our Chief Financial Officer discuss the quarterly financials.

Greg Flamion: Thank you Jeff. Good morning and welcome again to the Strawberry Fields third quarter earnings call. Starting off, we will discuss the quarterly comparison of the balance sheet as of September 30, 2024 versus the balance sheet as of the prior quarter at June 30, 2024. Total assets are $661.5 million, which is $25.7 million or 4% higher than June 30, 2024. This increase is driven by real estate investments from the five properties we acquired during the quarter, as well as higher cash balances from the Series A bond raise that occurred in August 2024. This was offset by lower right of use assets, as well as lower restricted cash and equivalents. Liabilities are $606.3 million, which is an increase of $21.1 million or 3.6% from the prior quarter.

The increase is due to the Series A bond raise that was mentioned earlier. The liability increase was offset by a lower accounts payable and lower operating lease liabilities. Equity for the quarter was $55.2 million, $4.6 million or 9.4% higher than the previous quarter. The increase is due to the higher third quarter net income and the sale of additional common stock, offset by third quarter dividend distributions. Moving to our next comparison, we are reviewing an analysis of the balance sheet as of September ’24 versus September ’23. Total assets are $31.7 million or 5% higher than the prior year. This increase is due to the cash and cash equivalents as well as higher goodwill, other intangible assets and lease rights. The lease right increase is due to the purchase of the Indiana master lease two lease rights in February of this year.

Liabilities increased $30.4 million or 5.3% from September 30, 2023. The higher liability balance is driven by an increase of 46.6% in net bonds offset by lower notes payable and other debt, as well as lower accounts payable and accrued liabilities. Equity is $55.2 million as of September ’24. This is $1.3 million or 2.5% higher than September 30, 2023. The increase is driven by higher net income, a net increase in common stock, and these increases were offset by higher dividend distributions and negative foreign currency-related adjustments. Moving onto the next comparison, we are now discussing the quarter-to-date income statement comparison of Q3 2024 versus Q2 2024. The third quarter net income is $6.9 million, which is marginally lower than the net income from the prior quarter.

Third quarter revenues and expenses were mostly in line with the second quarter; however, the quarterly change is due to slightly higher interest expense that was offset by lower G&A expenses. Moving to the year-to-date P&L comparison, September 2024 year-to-date net income is $19.9 million, which is $5.5 million or 37.8% higher than the year-to-date net income in September 2023. This increase is driven by higher revenue due to new properties acquired in the trailing 12 months, offset by higher operating expenses and higher interest expenses. This concludes the review of the financial statements in the presentation. Jeff Bajtner will now discuss our current investment strategy. Jeff?

Moishe Gubin: Well, actually it’s Moishe – thank you everybody for joining us today. This being our second time doing this earnings call, we’re still working out our kinks. We’re meat and potatoes folks, as most of you that know us know about us, and so I’ll just–this presentation that we put on our website would have been sent out to everybody, that you guys would have been following along on a screen, so I just want to walk everybody through the presentation that you can find on our site, and we’re probably going to publish it today. The one thing to note, our financial statements are in GAAP financials, and on the GAAP financials you’re at lower historical cost of the product or market, which undervalues–it doesn’t put our assets at the proper value.

Our enterprise value today is probably about $1.2 billion. Like Greg said, our assets on GAAP at about 661 – that’s after depreciation and everything. We expect that in the fourth quarter to close on about another $110 million of assets, and that should bring us to about $1.3 billion in enterprise value. Right now, we have a lot of cash and we continue to do the ATM and bring in more cash from that, and that actually helps bring in more shareholders and helps the institutions get a little bit more shares, and I’m thinking in the long run for managing the stock price, the ATM is going to be a useful tool for us with the help of the investment bankers that are part of our world. The next slide I want to go to is talking about the financial statements of the revenue.

Our revenue was basically the same, and that makes sense – we have straight-line rents. Under straight-line rents, you take the total lease for 10-year, because most of our leases are 10-year leases with two five-year renewals, so under 10-year leases, you add up all the years and divide it by the periods, and it’s the same number month over month over month, so you can expect stability, so our current numbers to stay stable with an increase of the new assets being bought, that will pick up to about $31 million, which through four quarters, we expect that to be about $125 million next year. That’s assuming we do no deals in ’25, and the likelihood of us doing no deals is very slim. Our expenses remain relatively flat. I think we’re managed less expensively than most of the other REITs that are out there.

Our total overhead between salaries and everybody and our total overhead for running the business, I think is less than $2 million annually, and we expect that to stay relatively similar. Our expectation for net income – like I said, our top line number is probably about $125 million next year, based on what we currently expect to close this year, and with that, our FFO, which is a metric we use, should be probably closer to $75 million next year. Again, our dividend, slow and steady wins the race, and we didn’t want to be erratic in our dividend, and so we’ve been keeping with being consistent and so therefore we raised it a penny, and we kept chugging along. If you go to the page where the map is, you could see where most of our stuff is, mainly in the midwest.

We’re adding to the footprint today by buying homes in Missouri, buying homes in Kansas, and we’re buying more homes in Texas and Oklahoma to help fill in the spots. Our basic investment strategy is we like to have master leases, so we either add more assets to a master lease or we buy a big enough portfolio for us to add a new location. Everything that we’re buying is third party operators unless it’s an asset that fits currently into a master lease that’s with an affiliate of myself. If we look at the FFO growth, it was in the 13% growth rate, and our FFO, very proud of that, like I said. It went from $30 million in ’19 to $57 million in ’24, and next year we should break probably 75. Our base rent also went from $72 million in ’19 and now we should end up with 25–a number around $125 million, and you know, it’s quirky because we’re all accountants here – Jeff, myself, Greg, and your financials are in GAAP and under GAAP accounting in a real estate company, the financials get a little wonky because you’re taking depreciation and you look like–you know, it doesn’t look right.

The reality is our assets maintain value, the tenants–you know, they’re all triple-net leases, our tenants are forced to take good care of the properties, and the buildings are in great shape, they look good. We visit the properties twice a year minimally and we have good contact and relationships with all of our operators, the owners of the operators, as well as mid-level managers that are managing the properties. I’m super proud of our–we haven’t done anything crazy about the dividend, like I talked about a little bit before. Super proud of the fact that we’re only doing a 47% payout ratio, which signifies about 100% of our net income, and then the rest of that money is what we’re using to buy new assets, that plus the ATM, and then we’re adding debt when we need to.

Our debt ratio, we want to stake to about 50%. Really, our number’s always been between 45 and 55–I mean, we’re transforming, we’re getting known to the marketplace. Even some of the new people in the call today are analysts that I’ve been hounding for years and now get their feet wet, understanding who we are and what we’re doing. We’re a very clean run company and we continue to do what we do. I just–I expect that once we get really treated like everybody else in the market – you know, traded at a multiple that works, then I could do more stock sales and lower the debt load even more than where we are. Equity at the dividend rate is really our cheapest form of capital today. That being said, I’ll do whatever we have to do, which every action we’re making is for the shareholders and that should be accretive to our stock and accretive to our story and what we’re doing.

I’m super proud of the payout ratio being below 47, and altogether we expect it’s the real–the share growth is probably we’re looking at a 12% growth rate, so overall we have a really good return for our shareholders. I know some people just care about what the dividend is and others care and they understand the stock price should go up as we make more money and the share becomes worth more money, and if you look at the next slide–I mean, I might be the only one looking at this stuff as–at 10/1/23, the stock price was $6.33, and the stock price at 10/1 was $12.69, so somebody that’s owning the stock, the stock has gone up. Now mind you, that’s definitely [indiscernible] amount because that’s just getting up to where our stock price should be trading, but in the long run if the stock’s trading consistently at a certain multiple, the fact that we make more money with the same amount of shares, because we use any excess cash and not necessarily diluting anybody, and we’re buying more assets, it should make each share worth more and therefore the stock should go up.

We’re super proud as well of our debt, like we just talked about, where we have a bunch of our money sitting in HUD debt, 40, 45% of our debt altogether in sitting with HUD debt, which is long term money. We have plenty of other loans that we expect in the Q to be able to move over to HUD and basic loan terms of about 35 to 40 years at 10-year plus 1.75 straight-line [indiscernible] – that’s a good piece of business for us. Again, our debt today, our leverage ratio is right around 50%, and that depends on where you want to assess a cap rate on our assets. Right now, that’s based on the 10.25% cap rate – if you put it at 8.5, probably in the 40s as far as leverage. That is all from this presentation that I have. I want to thank everybody for coming, and we’re going to open the floor for questions.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the floor is open for questions. [Operator instructions] Thank you. Our first question is coming from Barry Oxford with Colliers. Your line is live.

Q&A Session

Barry Oxford: Great guys, thanks for taking my question. You guys had mentioned a 10% cap rate. I was wondering if there’s any spread differential in cap rates versus the region, i.e. midwest versus the sunbelt region. Is there a difference in cap rate or are the cap rates pretty close to each other, regardless of whether it’s a midwest or sunbelt?

Moishe Gubin: Thank you Barry, I appreciate you. Thanks for joining us today, and appreciate the question. This is Moishe – I’ll answer that. I guess one of the things that differentiates us from our peers is I’m the founder, my partner Michael founded the company with me 21 years ago, and because of that, I’ve been relatively, I won’t say risk averse because we’ve grown consistently, but we’ve been very regimented and disciplined on how we buy. Our 10 cap purchase, and it’s either feast or famine – some years we don’t do any deals, some years we do plenty of deals, our math is the same. We’re basically looking at last three years financials with certain add-backs being–our background is nursing home operators, and no matter where the home is, whether it’s in the sunbelt or whether it’s in the rust belt or anywhere else in the country, we’re looking at the math to make sure that we’re coming in day one with the tenant making a 1.25 coverage of the rent, and where we’re making 10% on our money unlevered, and then we add leverage and we manage our balance sheet.

So yes, we don’t see a difference because we don’t do–what we generally–you know, we run this company similar to the way I run my bank, OPHC, and that is I don’t–we don’t make many policy exceptions. We treat this like loan committee when we come in front of investment committee, and it’s presented–you know, 20, 30, 40 pages of material, and we don’t make policy exceptions. Our policies dictate that on day one, tenants making money and we’re making our 10%, and–you know, the clean deal and all the boxes are checked, and we’ve been consistent with that. You might ask a better question, should we change it? That question was good, maybe a year or two ago when the interest rates were on the rise and where someone said to me, you know, are you getting squeezed, and my answer was, well, I don’t worry about that because we’re a long game.

Even if day one the 10% margin unlevered is what we get, and then we’re not able to lever at such a great rate because of interest rates, it doesn’t matter because we’re in this–you know, we plan on holding that asset for minimum 10, 20, 30 years, and we should be able to get it refinanced at some point with the HUD debt or–and we manage our balance sheet effectively, and that’s–so that’s what we do, and we’ve been consistent in how we do that.

Barry Oxford: Perfect, appreciate the color on that. Fundamentals also within the industry seem to be fairly robust. You guys had gains in occupancy at 70.4. How do you see that in ’25? Can you continue to push occupancy much above this level, or–look, Barry, there’s a point where frictional vacancy starts to happen.

Moishe Gubin: No, I think our portfolio, there’s two sides to our portfolio. You have the big cities, like Chicago and to a lesser extent Indianapolis, Louisville, Little Rock, and those homes after corona, they bounced back because they had the volume of patients and people don’t want to care for people at home, in the bigger cities it’s harder to find the nice licensed home to take care of your mother – not to judge anybody in the world. But that being said, in our portfolio, a lot of our stuff is in farmlands. We’re in the middle of–you know, it’s beautiful, it’s Smoky Mountains or somewhere that when corona came along and you had long term people that were living in the facilities for many years, and you lost that population, that has been slower to come back.

If you look at our occupancy, in the city our occupancy is higher than it was before corona, and that’s almost near probably somewhere–you know, blended is probably 80% to 90% everywhere else, and then you’ve got farmland that’s probably stuck at 60-something, that the buildings are making money but they’re still slowly, slowly building, because they don’t have the amount of volume of admits and discharges, and so the answer to you is yes. I think that the census occupancy hitting operators’ financials are going to continue to do better, and now with the new administration, one of the first things that happened after the president-elect became elected is CMS eliminated their–they pushed it off again, it’s going to get eliminated, a staffing mandate that was going to totally clobber the nursing home business, I mean subject to the state giving more revenue.

But yes, I mean, occupancy totally could go up. I mean, the tailwinds in our tenants’ business are great, really, really great – baby boomers and with a red government, red government usually is not so great for social programs, but from the point of regulation, the last bunch of years, the current administration has been really, really aggressive, and I think it’s the most fines industry-wide that the nursing homes have had annually. Year-over-year, the amount of fines and the amount of aggression that’s been negative to the nursing homes has been the worst–I’ve been in this business since I graduated college as an accountant. I started in accounts payable, a payroll bookkeeper literally in 1998. This is an industry that I have spent all of my time on, or most of my time on – I can’t say all, for the last, whatever that is, 27 years, and I could tell you this past four years were probably four of the worst–I mean, with corona and everything else, probably some of the worst years in the industry collectively.

But now, God willing, there’s a positive change that’s going to be occurring. Again, from our point of view, we just want to collect our rents and we want our tenants to take care of their residents, and that’s really–but the more money they make, the easier it is for them to take care of their residents. When they’re tight, really, really tight, it’s harder for them because they have to choose between this or that, when they only have X-amount of dollars to spend.

Barry Oxford: Perfect, all of that makes sense. Going to the dividend, 47% payout, you alluded to that it’s 100% of net income. Is it fair to say that going forward, you’re going to have to move the dividend basically at growth rate of the FFO, or not necessarily?

Moishe Gubin: No, that’s exactly right. My intention–and again, we have good governance, so I’m not a dictator. We take into consideration cash flow, we take into consideration shareholder–you know, attracting shareholders and what we have to do for the shareholder base and the like. Yes, it’s most likely that as our FFO increases–I mean, more than most likely, I don’t know how you say it. I can’t say definite, because you never know what’s going to happen in the future, but most likely we will see as the FFO grows, so will the dividend at minimum. I mean, it also could be that at some point, we get large enough and the capital is that good, that I could raise money at a good rate, not debt but equity. At that point, I could raise–and we do similar to the other guys, and the other guys are doing a payout ratio of, like, 90%.

I’ve been against that thought, but then again I’m learning as we grow new things, but I like the idea of not necessarily–I mean, I separate the fact of adding shareholders, because that’s what I want – you know, we want to be widely held, we want liquidity in the stock price, but I separate that from the financial metrics of the business. If I could get the money from cash flow and I don’t need to sell equity and not dilute the earnings per share, I’d rather not sell the stock, but if the stock price is doing that well, then it makes sense to sell the stock as long as I can put the money out to use and get a good return and have it be accretive to earnings. The earnings accretion is the hardest thing to do. Everything else is accretive to book, but book, nobody cares about – that’s not a metric that’s used really on when you’re determining to buy something.

Really, when you’re determined to buy something is on the forward-looking cash flow, and if the forward-looking cash flow per share gets diluted because I sell more stock, I’m very cognizant of that and I want to make sure that my shareholders–I’m looking for adulation, I’m soft inside and I want people to like me and think I’m doing a good job, and so I need to–you know? I go out there and aim to please, and that’s what we’re doing every day.

Barry Oxford: Well, when you look at your stock price and you look at your 10% cap rate, I mean, doesn’t the math pencil out accretively?

Moishe Gubin: Yes, yes, yes. We’re selling stock above NAV, but it’s not–I’m talking about in terms of EPS, accretive to EPS. If I don’t get that money out the door in a–you know, I need to put that money out the minute I get it, either by paying down debt or buying another asset with cash for–

Barry Oxford: But it’s going to be a drag on earnings by definition, right?

Moishe Gubin: Yes, exactly. Exactly, and I want to make sure that the marketplace understands what I’m doing, and I’m cognizant of that because at the end of the day to attract a new shareholder, when they’re going to see what we did, they’re not necessarily–you know, everybody looks at stocks differently, but I like to think we’re a lot different because of the risk factors that we have are, I think, less than–because we don’t really suffer from economy–you know, interest rate risk and economy risk. We’re a business that’s not–that’s not a decision that you make because you want to make, you make a decision because you have to make, and this is a business–you know, people–if your mother needs a nursing home, you’re putting her in a nursing home.

You not thinking, well, it’s expensive. Nobody thinks that way. They think, I’ve got to take care of my mother, and so we’re in a business that the demand is going to continue to be there, and it’s not like people are going to choose, you know, we’ll keep her at home. There may be cases of that, of course, but–so we have a business that–and there’s always financing for relatively inexpensive costs and there’s always a social need for the product, and so we like to think that a shareholder that’s going to listen to us is going to understand that, you know, this might be more risky from the thought process of you don’t understand it, but it’s not more risky when it comes to if you’re putting your money in a REIT, right, multi-family, something could happen with the rental market, office, same thing like we’ve seen.

Nursing homes, you don’t see that. The nursing homes continue to chug along and they pay their rent, and we get–like we said, we’re collecting 100% of our rents and we’ve done that year-in, year-out for, I don’t know, 20 years. I tell people, if we had an accounts receivable person, it’s the easiest job in the book because we get all of our rents wired in at the first of the month. It’s not even–we’re not hounding people down to collect rent. They pay us and that’s the end of it. I don’t remember even what the question was, but I think I answered you.

Barry Oxford: You did. I appreciate the time, and I’ll go ahead and yield the floor. Thanks guys.

Moishe Gubin: Thanks Barry.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question is coming from Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners. Your line is live.

Gaurav Mehta: Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask you on the portfolio that you have under contract, just to clarify, the portfolio is–the consultant on that portfolio, it’s not Infinity but another third party?

Moishe Gubin: Correct, and Gaurav, thank you for your time, thank you for joining us today, thank you for following us. We appreciate you, we appreciate your firm. That being said, yes, this is–like, our philosophy today is every new deal that’s in new places are completely non-related party. This is no different. This is a seasoned operator that’s been running nursing homes for 30 years, he lives in Creve Coeur, and yes, completely arm’s length third party, good coverage ratios day one, strong sponsor support, but yes, it’s a good deal and it adds a new operator and a new state, completely unrelated to me.

Gaurav Mehta: Okay. I think in your prepared remarks, you mentioned a number, $75 million of AFFO, is that for next year 2025 that you’re expecting?

Moishe Gubin: Yes.

Gaurav Mehta: Okay, and that includes all the 4Q acquisitions that you expect to close, right?

Moishe Gubin: Yes, we have currently–we didn’t announce a bunch of deals, but we have this $87.5 million deal in Missouri, we have about a $24 million deal in Kansas, we’ve got a $5 million deal in Oklahoma, and I’m not sure – I don’t know if we have anything else, but if you add that stuff up, we should end the year strong, and the 75 is generated off of that for next year. Again, we’ll probably exceed that because we’ll probably buy–I’m sure we’ll find something to buy next year as well.

Gaurav Mehta: Okay, great. Maybe last one, earlier in your remarks, you talked about some of the changes you’re expecting from the new administration. I was hoping if you could maybe talk about your view on any impact you’re expecting on Medicaid reimbursements or any other reimbursements, any expected impact on your business.

Moishe Gubin: Well, so over the years and as part of doing non-deal road shows for so long that I’ve been doing this, I’ve spent a lot of time trying to educate shareholders, analysts, whoever wants to listen to me on our business. The Title XVII and Title XVIII of the Social Security Act basically has the government under Medicaid having to reimburse the costs of running the nursing home, so now the thing is as time goes on–and what happened with COVID is a once in a lifetime event, hopefully it never happens again in our lifetime, but in that example, the reimbursement for some states are so far behind, and you saw in 2024 towards the end of the year, Kentucky finally improved, Ohio finally improved, and I think Tennessee–not Tennessee, but–I don’t know if there was something in Texas maybe improved.

But otherwise, the cost base reimbursement has had Indiana, Tennessee, and other states–Arkansas, increase their rates a year later after the expenses occur, so as far as Medicaid goes, really that program should always be in line to what it’s doing, so I don’t have a thought on that. The Medicare side of things also has been relatively consistent over the last–you know, other than a couple of hiccups in the middle when they changed reimbursement here and there, we expect that to be relatively status quo – 3%, 4%, 5% annual increases for the nursing homes in Medicare, and that’s that. Again, the Medicaid is a little bit more of a story. Anyone that wants more color and they really want to hear about it, I’m glad to fill people in.

I could go on and on about this. This is really my–this is what’s in my bones, this is what I’ve done for many years. I’m not an operator for now a bunch of years, but it’s still–I’m a study of the business and so if anyone wants some color afterwards, I’m glad to talk to anybody.

Gaurav Mehta: All right, that’s all I had. Thanks for taking my questions.

Moishe Gubin: Thanks Gaurav.

Operator: Thank you. Once again ladies and gentlemen, if you have any further questions or comments, please press star, one on your telephone keypad at this time. Okay, as we have no further questions in queue at this time, I’d like to hand back to Mr. Gubin for any closing remarks.

Moishe Gubin: Yes, I appreciate everyone taking time out of their lives, certainly at the open of the market to spend with us. In the long run, our stock will make you all proud. We’re slow and steady, doing stuff consistently and continue chugging along, making money and growing our net income and growing our FFO per share. God willing, we’ll continue to prove that quarter-in, quarter-out, so thank you for your time and have a very nice day.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today’s call. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day, and we thank you for your participation.