Quad/Graphics, Inc. (NYSE:QUAD) Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Quad/Graphics, Inc. (NYSE:QUAD) Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript February 21, 2024

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Operator: Good morning, and welcome to the Quad’s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2023 Conference Call. During today’s call all participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. A slide presentation accompanies today’s webcast and participants are invited to follow along, advancing the slides themselves. To access the webcast, follow instructions posted in the earnings release. Alternatively, you can access the slide presentation on the Investors section of Quad’s website under the Events and Presentations link. [Operator Instructions]. Please note, that this event is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the conference over to Katie Krebsbach, Quad’s Investor Relations Manager. Katie, please go ahead.

Katie Krebsbach: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. With me today are Joel Quadracci, Quad’s Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Tony Staniak, Quad’s Chief Financial Officer. Joel will lead today’s call with a business update, and Tony will follow with a summary of Quad’s fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results, followed by Q&A. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being webcast and forward-looking statements are subject to safe harbor provisions as outlined in our quarterly news release and in today’s slide presentation on Slide 2. Quad’s financial results are prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. However, this presentation also contains non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted diluted earnings per share, free cash flow, net debt and debt leverage ratio.

We have included in the slide presentation reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures. Finally, a replay of the call and the slide presentation will be available on the Investors section of quad.com shortly after our call concludes today. I will now hand over the call to Joel.

Joel Quadracci: Thank you, Katie. And good morning, everyone. Beginning on Slide 3, I am pleased to report we delivered solid 2023 results, meeting our guidance across all metrics. Our results included adjusted EBITDA above the midpoint of our guidance range, and adjusted EBITDA margin consistent with 2022, despite an 8% decline in annual net sales, created by a significant postal rate increase that was well above the rate of inflation, ongoing economic uncertainty, especially in early 2023 and the impact of elevated interest rates on the financial services sector, leading to reduced direct mail budgets. I will share our share more detail on our net sales breakdown shortly. We ended 2023, with strong free cash flow, that was near the high end of our guidance range, and used our cash generation to further strengthen our balance sheet, reducing our net debt leverage to two times, our lowest leverage levels since 2017.

Since January 1 2020, we have paid off $564 million in debt, a 55% reduction over four years. Through 2023, we also continue to return capital to shareholders through share repurchases, we will continue to be opportunistic in terms of our future share repurchases. And, as we announced last week, we have reinstated a quarterly dividend of $0.05 per share. We remain confident in our ability to address business impacts, including long term expected organic declines in large scale print, due to our well established and disciplined approach to managing all aspects of our business. This includes treating all costs as variable, aligning our cost structure to revenue opportunities, and optimizing our print manufacturing platform by consolidating work into plants, where we can achieve the greatest manufacturing efficiencies, and subsequently selling assets no longer required for business operations.

At the same time, we continue to aggressively push forward on our growth strategy, is a marketing experience or MX company. The three pillars of our growth strategy are outlined on Slide 4, and include delivering integrated service excellence, which we achieve by focusing on solving problems, removing pain points and sources of friction from the marketing process, and providing transparency on clients marketing expenditures. Accelerating market penetration in key verticals and product lines, with the greatest expansion opportunities, and continuing to leverage our unique company culture, which is based on honesty and transparency to grow as an MX company. On Slide 5, we show how we continue to make progress in our revenue diversification strategy into higher value higher margin offerings.

Between 2018 and 2023. integrated solutions and targeted print increased as a portion of total net sales, and now represent 63% of net sales, an increase from five years ago when they accounted for 54% of net sales. Our integrated solutions include agency solutions, while targeted print comprises catalogs, direct mail, packaging, and in-store signage and displays. Large scale print which includes retail inserts magazines and directories, and continues to decrease as a percentage of total net sales due to organic declines. The increase in our international locations is primarily driven by stronger sales in Latin America, especially in Mexico, a strategic extension of our U.S. platform. Moving on to Slide 6, we achieved client service excellence and distinct competitive advantage through our suite of flexible, scalable and connected MX solutions.

These solutions span every facet of the marketing journey, from offline to online, across creative production and media and supported by data driven intelligence and state of the art technology. We tailor each of these solutions to client objectives driving cost efficiencies, improving speed to market, strengthening market effectiveness, and delivering value on investments. Quad’s data driven intelligence solutions and power smarter decisions to maximize marketing effectiveness and generate quantifiable impact, while our client facing AI driven technology solutions remove friction in the marketing process, by helping clients connect marketing strategy, global content creation, analytics and personalized communications across online and offline channels.

We have long employed artificial intelligence and robotic process automation and cognitive insights, and continue to explore new ways to apply generative AI across internal workflows and client facing solutions. Our creative solutions help clients increase engagement, with their brands to accelerate business growth support all channels through every step of the creative process, including strategy, brand design, campaign ideation, free media, adaptive design, and content creation. As far as production, Quad offers a wide range of production solutions for deploying content to all channels offline and online. This is a major point of differentiation among our competitive set. Traditional agencies or agency holding companies develop creative and then outsource production, while traditional consulting firms provide strategy and then outsource implementation.

Quad however, is able to strategize, create and execute all campaign elements across all channels, using our own internal resources, providing a more efficient marketing experience for our clients and a better experience for the consumer. And lastly, through our media solutions, we provide strategic omnichannel media planning and placement, managing hundreds of millions of dollars of media billings annually. All our media solutions prioritize transparency and neutrality. So our clients can feel confident that their media spend is supported by the best data, platform and partners, for their unique needs to generate measurable impact. As I shared with you on last quarter’s call Joshua Lowcock, a well-respected and experienced leader in global media and data, joined Quad, as President of Media.

Since joining us a few short months ago, he is quickly set about implementing the next evolution of our audience targeting and media engagement offering, which will improve our competitiveness and drive revenue growth. This next evolution aligns our data and analytics offering, with our media and planning offering, as shown on Slide seven. By doing this, we’re integrating audience identification abilities, anchored on Quad’s, proprietary household data offering, with planning and measurement across all forms of client media, online, offline in-home or in-store. The value to our clients will be superior audience identification, and fully integrated planning, placement and measurement to optimize spend in almost real time. This integrated offering is the foundation of a new Quad media offering grounded in our unique household insights and data capability that we will be bringing to market soon.

Another area in which we are strategically investing is retail media networks. Earlier this month, we announced our acquisition of DART Innovation, an in-store digital media solutions provider to further build on our retail expertise and offerings, as shown on Slide 8. With DART’s capabilities and technology, we aim to revolutionize the shopping experience for retailers, consumer packaged goods companies and consumers by delivering targeted promotions on digital screens right at the store shelf, the most critical moment in the purchasing decision. This strategic investment expands and seamlessly integrates into our suite of MX solutions, and enables an integrated consumer purchasing journey across home, online and in-store. Retailers are highly interested in our offerings in this space and we are already leveraging DART’s capabilities to launch the first phase of our rollout with the Save Mart companies, the largest private grocery retailer on the West Coast.

Turning to Slide 9. We also continue to innovate solutions in our core print business, especially postage optimization programs to help offset ongoing significant postal rate increases. Postage makes up the largest portion of cost for our print clients as compared to paper and manufacturing. The U.S. Postal Service continues to pursue what we believe is a flawed strategy of implementing enormous postal hikes in attempt to make up for billions of dollars in annual losses. This strategy is driving away the very volume that supports its existence. In the last year alone, mail volumes are plummeted by 11 billion pieces according to the USPS data. This is primarily due to the cumulative effect of postal rate hikes. We expect to see additional volume reductions if this unsound strategy is not fixed, as our clients cannot continue to absorb massive rate increases, some of which have totaled as much as 57% over the last three years, more than triple the rate of inflation.

We are urging swift action to preserve the affordability of the printed mail channel before it potentially has to undergo a massive tax bailout. We have been working with members of Congress, White House staff and our client base to moderate these increases. This effort is important as the postal services at the core of a $1.9 trillion mailing industry that provides family supporting jobs for 7.9 million Americans and is the backbone for a large portion of the private sector. We will share updates on our efforts to address this crisis, including the launch of a new dynamic postal optimization program at our 23rd Postal Conference next month. Turning to Slide 10. We are pleased to show how we’re growing our presence with well-known brands with a particular focus on commerce which includes retail, consumer packaged goods and direct-to-consumer, financial services, health and publishing.

These reputable well-known brands include Amazon, Walmart, Red Bull, American Express, Abbott Labs and more, and are all admired for their excellence and the loyalty they have built with consumers. We take great pride in knowing they trust us to help deliver in their marketing vision. On Slide 11, we show an example of how we are using our connected solutions to improve consumer response rates and revenue for leading brands and marketers. Wolverine Worldwide, one of the world’s leading marketers and licensors of branded footwear and apparel, including Merrell, Saucony and Wolverine had used direct mail successfully for many years. But over time, started seeing a decline in its effectiveness. The company had considered reducing or altogether eliminating direct mail to focus exclusively on digital campaigns for growing and strengthening consumer connections.

We partnered with Wolverine Worldwide to optimize its direct marketing performance, conducting premarket testing and integrated campaign support. We used accelerated marketing insights, our proprietary premarket testing platform to research different messages and creative treatments for consumer preference and to build an audience influence messaging hierarchy. Our testing included multiple variables in more than 1,400 different combinations to assemble the optimum content and design for a challenger direct mail piece to outperform existing content already in market. We also leveraged Informed Delivery, a U.S. postal service solution that lets consumers preview upcoming mail deliveries in e-mail to send digital challenger ads to the same target audience online and via social media.

The results were exceptional. Year-over-year, we were able to help Wolverine achieve nearly double its response rate. The client also doubled conversion rates, thanks to more effective digital creative and messaging, accomplishing twice the click-through rate and increasing sales, an incredible 261% per buyer. We look forward to continuing to work with Wolverine to increase engagement between its brands and consumers to accelerate business growth. On Slide 12, we show an example of how our flexible, scalable and connected solutions are helping Rural King, a farm and home retailer with 135 stores across 13 states, increased marketing efficiency and effectiveness. We have been steadily expanding our relationship with Rural King’s since 2016 when we started printing its retail ad inserts.

Soon thereafter, we added media planning and placement for inserts, eventually become the retailer’s full media agency of record in 2020. Since then, we have expanded our relationship to include creative development and execution for all channels, including linear and connected TV, radio, display, YouTube and social. Robust data and analytics solutions, including the use of our proprietary tool for optimizing cross-channel marketing spend, a custom dashboard for tracking real-time channel performance and media mix modeling services that transparently detail marketing return on investment and our proprietary content management system that enables content at scale across marketing channels. Rural King also uses our data and analytics capabilities to conduct brand health measurement, tracking perception and reputation among consumers along with performance in the marketplace.

Our data and analytics expertise is important to Rural King, as is our integrated service approach which includes a single point of contact for all Quad services. This offering removes the complexity of working with multiple vendors and partners, enabling Rural King to focus on delivering the best consumer experience. We value our relationship and look forward to continuing to partner on new initiatives, including brand positioning work this spring. Turning to Slide 13. For more than 52 years, Quad has worked to create positive sustainable impact at our company and in the communities where we live and work. Recently, our work on our two notable recognitions. Quad was a finalist in the Greater Good Awards presented by Digiday, Glossy, modern retail and Worklife, for ongoing support of social causes, including staff empowerment, extracurricular programs and community partnerships.

And members of our corporate responsibility team were recently recognized by Milwaukee-based Uplifting Impact for their efforts to advance inclusive leadership at Quad. Before I turn the call over to Tony, I would like to thank our employees for their commitment to performing well for our clients, while we proactively manage all aspects of our business for long-term strength and stability. I have great confidence in our team and continue to be enthusiastic about our growth opportunities as an MX company. I’ll now turn the call over to Tony for a financial review.

Anthony Staniak: Thanks, Joel, and good morning, everyone. Slide 14 provides a snapshot of our fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results. Net sales were $788 million in the fourth quarter of 2023, down 11% from 2022. For the full year, net sales were $3 billion, down 8% from 2022. The net sales decline was primarily due to lower print, paper and logistics sales as well as the 2022 divestiture of our Argentina print operations. Print volumes were negatively impacted by ongoing external headwinds, including significant postal rate increases, economic uncertainty and the effect of elevated interest rates on specific clients. Adjusted EBITDA was $66 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 as compared to $79 million in the fourth quarter of 2022, and adjusted EBITDA margin declined 8.3% in the fourth quarter of 2023 compared to 8.9% in the fourth quarter of 2022.

For the full year, adjusted EBITDA was $234 million in 2023 compared to $252 million in 2022. However, adjusted EBITDA margin improved from 7.8% to 7.9%. The decrease in full year adjusted EBITDA was primarily due to $11 million of lower pension income as well as the impact of lower sales partially offset by benefits from improved manufacturing productivity and savings from cost reduction initiatives. Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.23 in the fourth quarter of 2023 as compared to $0.41 in the fourth quarter of 2022. For the full year, adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.52 in 2023 compared to $0.89 in 2022. The decline was primarily due to lower adjusted net earnings and was partially offset by the positive impact from share repurchases.

In the fourth quarter, we continued to return capital to shareholders through share repurchases. And since the second quarter of 2022, we have repurchased 5.9 million shares or approximately 11% of our outstanding shares for a total purchase price of $23 million. Free cash flow was $77 million in 2023 compared to $94 million in 2022. The decline in free cash flow was primarily due to an $11 million increase in capital expenditures as we continue to invest in innovation and automation initiatives. During 2023, we invested $71 million in capital expenditures to drive efficiencies. In addition to free cash flow, we also continue to generate significant cash from asset sales, as shown on Slide 15. During the 5-year period from 2020 to 2024, we expect we will generate over $700 million of free cash flow and proceeds from asset sales.

These sales include divestitures of certain non-core portions of our business as well as sales of property, plant and equipment from closed facilities, such as our Merced, California print building that we sold in 2023 for net proceeds of $19 million. Beginning in the fourth quarter of 2023 and into the first quarter of 2024, we have announced the closure of an additional four owned facilities from which we will generate further proceeds from asset sales. This strong cash generation fuels our capital allocation strategy, as shown on Slide 16. Our capital allocation priorities include using free cash flow and cash proceeds from asset sales to invest in scaling our offerings as a marketing experience company, such as the acquisition of DART, continued debt reduction and return capital to shareholders.

As announced last week, on February 16, our Board of Directors reinstated a quarterly dividend of $0.05 per share or $0.20 per share on an annualized basis. We are pleased to return capital to shareholders through the quarterly dividend, and we also expect to continue to be opportunistic in terms of our future share repurchases. We saw our commitment to debt reduction on Slide 17. As part of a multiyear debt reduction strategy, at the end of 2023, we reduced net debt by $564 million, a 55% reduction from over $1 billion of debt we had on January 1, 2020, and we reached 2.0 times debt leverage, which was the low end of our previous long-term targeted leverage range. We intend to further reduce debt leverage to approximately 1.8 times by the end of 2024.

We also are lowering our targeted debt leverage range by a 0.25 turn to now be 1.75 times to 2.25 times. Slide 18 includes a summary of our debt capital structure. At the end of 2023, our net debt was $470 million, our blended interest rate was 6.9%, and our debt was 44% floating and 56% fixed. In early 2024, we generated $53 million of cash by successfully increasing the commitment with one of our banks to add $25 million to our term loan and by entering into $28 million of leases for two large printing presses instead of purchasing those presses outright. We then used our revolving credit facility and cash on hand to repay an $88 million term loan maturity, and at that same time, the total capacity under our revolving credit facility decreased by $90 million to $343 million.

With the step-down in debt complete, our next nearest significant debt maturity is now November of 2026. On Slide 19, we have included our 2024 financial guidance. Annual net sales are expected to decline 5% to 9% compared to the prior year. The decline in net sales is primarily due to expected organic declines in certain product lines heightened by significant postal rate increases. In addition, our net sales guidance will be impacted by the ending of a long-standing relationship with a large grocery client. Our relationship with this client concludes at the end of this month, and represented approximately 3% of our 2023 net sales. While the loss of any client is disappointing, our revenue is highly diversified with no single cloud client representing more than 5% of our annual revenue.

We have a large base of over 2,700 clients that provide sales growth opportunities as we continue to expand our offerings as a marketing experience company. Full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA is expected to be between $205 million and $245 million with $225 million at the midpoint of that range, representing a $9 million decline from 2023 adjusted EBITDA, but a 28 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin to 8.2%, due to benefits from improved manufacturing productivity and savings from cost reduction initiatives. These cost reduction initiatives include the closures of our Sacramento, California; Ethingham in Bolingbrook, Illinois; and Saratoga Springs, New York facilities as well as other labor reductions in production and SG&A. These decisions, while difficult, are expected to result in $16 millions of annual cost savings.

From a quarterly perspective, we anticipate our lowest adjusted EBITDA to be in the first quarter of 2024 as the benefits from the cost reduction actions will reach their full annualized amount late in the second quarter of 2024. We then expect improved adjusted EBITDA in the second half of 2024 due to the full benefit of the restructuring actions combined with higher sales during our seasonal production peak. We expect 2024 free cash flow to be in the range of $50 million to $70 million, with $60 million at the midpoint of that range, representing a $17 million decline compared to 2023. In 2024, free cash flow will be most impacted by higher restructuring payments, particularly in the first half of the year due to the recent plant closures and other labor actions.

The higher restructuring payments and the reduction in cash flow from lower net sales will be partially offset by improvements in working capital, lower interest payments due to our debt reduction and lower capital expenditures. Capital expenditures are expected to be in the range of $60 million to $70 million, approximately $6 million lower than 2023 at the midpoint of our 2024 guidance range. We expect our free cash flow to be augmented by cash proceeds from asset sales. The extent of which will be based on the timing of selling the buildings that were recently announced for closure. With our strong cash generation, we will continue to prioritize debt reduction and expect to further reduce our net debt leverage ratio to be approximately 1.8 times by the end of 2024, near the low end of our new long-term targeted net debt leverage range of 1.75 to 2.25 times.

Slide 20 includes our key investment highlights as we continue to build on our momentum as a marketing experience company. We believe that Quad is a compelling long-term investment maybe even more compelling with the recently announced quarterly dividend, and we remain focused on growing net sales and driving higher profitability through continued diversification of our revenue and clients. With our expanded offerings as a marketing experience company, including investments in new offerings such as in-store digital promotions with the DART acquisition. There is a significant addressable revenue opportunity with both our large base of existing clients as well as new clients. In addition, our successful multiyear debt reduction strategy, including achieving 2.0 times debt leverage at the end of 2023, provides us increased flexibility in capital allocation.

Our focus on debt reduction will not change as that is in the best interest of Quad and its shareholders as we reduce interest costs in this high interest rate environment and further strengthen what we believe is an industry-leading financial foundation. While continuing to reduce debt, we also now have the capital flexibility to add to the ways we provide returns to shareholders with the reinstatement of the quarterly dividend. With that, I’d like to turn the call back to our operator for questions.

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Q&A Session

Operator: [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Kevin Steinke of Barrington Research Associates. Please go ahead.

Kevin Steinke : Good morning, Joel. Thanks for taking the questions. Nice job on the fourth quarter results and getting to the low end of your prior leverage ratio range, and also it was good to see you reduce the targeted range going forward. But I want to start out by asking about just the sales outlook as you think about 2024, you mentioned expected organic declines in certain product categories. Maybe just touch on which categories you’re expecting to decline and the factors behind that. I talked about interest rates, economic uncertainty as well as the postage rate increases, and then as well, can you just kind of touch on what you saw in the various categories in the fourth quarter as well as full year 2023?

Joel Quadracci: Yes. I think probably — Kevin, this is Joel. The best way for me to kind of walk through that is start with 2023, and we’ll kind of roll forward with what we can say. And we always talk about large-scale print is where we continue to expect organic decline, especially in retail inserts, and it’s been a double-digit clip for many years, and that’s just one of those lines that we just manage and we manage it down and get great free cash flow from that. So it’s a manageable process. The thing that happened in ’23 at the beginning of the year, I’d say two themes. One would be economic uncertainty. We are hearing that from our clients. I think everyone was hearing it around the world. And that definitely sort of muted a little bit how they were sharing with us their 2023 plan.

You could see it being built in. The other part was significant interest rate increases like, as you know. And where that really impacted us hard was on direct mail because we had a pretty big exposure to the financial segment, including one main player exiting the consumer banking business. And so with large interest rates, you saw a very big pullback in direct mail and especially amongst consumer lending services. So that’s what impacted that. The second theme that I would say is really important is that the post office decided they were going to — they did an early increase in the first part of the year, but decided to go forward with a significant increase in the middle of the year with a combined 10% to 14% increase in our clients’ biggest cost.

Clients did not expect the second one, and so they had already locked in their budgets for the year. And so whenever this happens, again, it’s the biggest cost, we saw the second half significantly decline specifically in catalog and direct mail as a result of the postage increase. This was not digital disruption. This was a significant above-inflation increase by the post office. And so what happens is they reduced their prospecting mailing pretty significantly right away to make up for it. You have your catalog you sell off your existing customers, then you have names you rent to try and get customers. Whenever there’s a big out-of-whack increase like this, it’s typically a pullback in that. And that — we saw that in the second quarter. I think that when we looked at catalogs for the year, sales was off about 6% year-to-date, but that would be very heavily back-end loaded where we saw the decline.

As I roll forward and think about 2024, the post office has announced another significant increase. They just passed along about a 4%, 4.5% a couple of weeks back, but they’re planning on going forward with the 10% in July. This is absolutely, in our belief, not a sound strategy because marketing mail is one of the backbones for making the rest of the post office work. And as everyone knows, no one is going to let the post office go away. So I’m not concerned about losing the ability to distribute through the post office, but everyone should be concerned, and that’s where we’re working with Congress, the White House, et cetera, everyone should be concerned that there’s going to — they’re heading for a major taxpayer bailout or takeover because right now, postage is what funds the post office by its own.

And so it doesn’t make sense. I mean it’s literally triple the inflation rate of what they’re trying to do, over 57% increase in the largest cost in the last three years. It makes no economic sense for anybody. We have that built into our guidance. We put in more expected organic decline due to postage into our guidance. We hope that it changes, but we’re managing as if it goes through. Also I hinted towards — we are about to roll out a major product. We’ve, for many years, innovated around doing a lot of work for the post office. And years back, the post office our customers to skip most of the post office to get big discounts. And so we do that in the form of what we call mailing and skipping a lot of the infrastructure and doing the work for the post office.

We’ve got a new product coming out that potentially could help save people 10% to 20% of their postage costs. So while not offsetting this inexplicable increase that the post office is doing, but at least helping to make it manageable, but I’ll reiterate that build back in. From an interest rate standpoint, on the direct mail side, I’d say we’re starting to see some of the core financial segment coming back, maybe not in personal lending. But I’m also seeing people who may have pulled away from direct mail, starting to come back in. And we’ve got several conversations that are very promising because the strength of direct mail, it works. And you’ve got also a decrease in the effectiveness of digital going on with the deprecation of cookies, et cetera.

And so everyone is looking at the full media mix to try and optimize it and they’re not going to be ignoring print. Does that make sense, Kevin?

Kevin Steinke: Yes, absolutely. That was great color. So as I think about 2024, it really, from your comments, it feels like it’s more — the expected decline is more weighted towards the postal rate increases than perhaps economic uncertainty. Is that fair to say?

Joel Quadracci: That’s the way we’re looking at it. And I’ll remind you though that in large-scale print, we continue to expect double-digit decline, and that’s what we’ve been saying for years. But in the areas of like catalogs, direct mail, that would be accurate.

Kevin Steinke: Okay. And you mentioned working with the government on perhaps trying to reverse or slow this trend of increasing rates. I don’t know, obviously, is one of the largest mailers in the U.S. You probably have their ear a bit. I mean I don’t know if they’re getting a lot of pushback, I would suppose from other large mailers. And just wondering what you think your level of influences or the industry’s level of influence? And do you have any sense as to whether they were surprised by these volume declines? Or are they — I mean what their thinking is after seeing these volume declines, I guess?

Joel Quadracci: Yes, what we’ve been told is they don’t believe in something called elasticity that volume declines are because of digital disruption. And if you talk to a lot of mailers out there, they say we went through a lot of the digital disruption, but we still use catalog and direct mail in our mix. And that this particular era is about this huge increase in cost. I mean it would be like telling me that my biggest cost labor is going to go up 57%, and I have no ability to pass it on to my customers because most of the world is stuck at raising prices somewhere in the CPI range. It’s just the math doesn’t work. Now no one single person can influence this, but we speak on behalf of a lot of different mailers. We work in conjunction with the C21, which is made up of a lot of different groups.

I’ve testified in Congress multiple times as we got the post office huge relief just a couple of years ago after working on a bill for 10 years. They save billions of dollars by not having to pre-form retirement health care and things like that. But the downside was is they got released from having to capped their postal rates at the same rate that everybody else in the world is capped at about CPI. And no one thought they would go to extreme levels like this. And it just logically doesn’t make sense. You don’t run a business this way. So we’re hitting it, but I will also tell you there’s a lot of big players out there in the non-profit world. Non-profits are getting killed by this. And you think about the ARPs of this world, that there’s a lot of other players who do a lot of their own lobbying that you will see a lot of — right now, there’s a lot of people screaming.

And ultimately, it’s getting Congress’ attention and hopefully, the board of governors who will oversee it to bring some rational behavior to bear. And again, it’s not going to go away, but I think that they should be worried about a massive taxpayer takeover, which no one wants because there’s too much of that going on.

Kevin Steinke: All right. That’s helpful. Thank you. I just also wanted to touch on, you mentioned there the loss of a longtime grocery client, maybe — just what happened there? And how you would expect to maybe kind of backfill that over time?

Joel Quadracci: Yes. We will work to backfill it. I hate losing clients. This client, we did a lot of complex things for across multiple services. And the two things I’ll just say on it is that, we need to get paid for what we do. We’re not asking to help the world, but we have to get paid for what we do with all these complex services we do. And I’ll also say that the — this customer is also managing through some very significant complexities of their own. So I’ll leave it at that.

Kevin Steinke: Understood. I mean, yes, that’s kind of what I was thinking maybe you touch on is perhaps the profitability wasn’t there. So maybe it’s not as significant or large of an impact to your profitability is perhaps your revenue.

Joel Quadracci: Yes. I just think it’s just so important for my employees and my shareholders that as we invest in all these things, that we get paid a fair price. That’s all we ask. We get paid for a huge benefit we’re giving people by providing all this integration, postal savings, all the different things that we do. And so sometimes, that results in answers you don’t like, but the best answers for the long term of my company.

Kevin Steinke: Understood. Great. So I also wanted to talk about agency solutions, your end-to-end bargaining solutions and the demand you’re seeing there. I think you mentioned a strong business pipeline. So maybe what you’re seeing on that front? And if that continues to be resilient in kind of these uncertain economic times?

Joel Quadracci: Yes, I’d say that the pipeline is actually — is heating up nicely because remember, we just relaunched our brand a year ago, and a lot of this is about opening up the aperture to clients we never had access before. And so we really weren’t direct to CPG and things like that. We weren’t always in the agency space or viewed as it of providing media solutions. And so we really ramped that up this past year. I mean, a couple of years ago, I never — I’d never thought I’d be telling you that we’re redesigning the brand look for Titleist Pro V1. When you look at what we shared about Wolverine today, think of this as a flywheel. It’s not just an agency solution I want to win, I want to win the relationship. And any entry point is a great entry point.

So Wolverine, we entered in — we’re able to suddenly offer them quite a few different products and services to solve their problem. I’d like to see if we enter into a creative space with someone that suddenly then we’re talking about for packaging, for instance, how does then that package appear on in-store. Let’s talk to our in-store people. By the way, with our retail media network we’re launching as we start to help manage your media spend, we’d love to take the data that comes out of the retail media network to sell CPGs on advertising within the store with eyeballs, but then using the data that we get out of that experience to further go after new audience. And so think of this all as a big flywheel that’s speeding up. And it’s creating a lot of revenue and will create revenue across a lot of the print channels as well, especially in targeted print.

And I think, Wolverine is a great example of that.

Kevin Steinke: Okay. Great. So when I think about the sales guidance and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges for 2024, as you map those out, what are some of the factors that maybe gives you the high end or the low end of those ranges as you think about how the year might play out?

Anthony Staniak : I think on the — this is Tony, Kevin. I think on the revenue perspective, from the economy standpoint, we’ve assumed kind of the similar economic environment to how it is today kind of lasts throughout 2024. To the extent that the economic environment substantially improved and the marketing spend, thus would improve along with it, we could benefit from that on the sales side. On the EBITDA side, I’d say we’re going to continue to look at how we can improve productivity. We did a lot of that in 2023, but we’re still continuing to work on that in 2024, and the benefits of automation that we just put in with a couple of large wide web presses that we put into the United States. We’re putting one into Mexico this month. And those can all provide profitability improvement for us. And then I think it comes back to what Joel said about the flywheel and how that can just continue to generate sales from print leading agency or respectively agency of print.

Joel Quadracci: And then the one last point on the revenue side is what I’ve been talking about, the wild card is a bit of how does this postal thing play out. Do they hold steady on their strategy, or do other thoughts come into play that correct that.

Anthony Staniak : And Kevin, I would just say on the guidance, we’re happy with the fact that we’re maintaining profitability despite these revenue pressures that you’re hearing from us with the postal rates. So even resulting in a slightly improved adjusted EBITDA margin as we are improving the profitability on the margin. So happy about that.

Kevin Steinke: Absolutely. Yes, as I looked at the guidance that clearly stood out to me, essentially flattish profitability kind of within that range at the midpoint despite the projected sales decline. So, maybe just a couple more here. Just on any more commentary on DART Innovation, just in terms of size or purchase price quantitatively or qualitatively and any other color commentary on what that brings to you?

Joel Quadracci: Yes, it was — from a size of a deal, it’s not a large deal, but it’s an important one. That team has been around for several years, working with a very large retailer currently that they’ve deployed it in for several years now. The exciting thing is that we brought to the table this opportunity with Save Mart, who’s leadership, our veterans in the grocery business. They know the business. They know it well. They know us. They trust us. And the fact is, is we’re already launching on a rollout with them to test in their stores for hopefully a bigger rollout as well as with other retailers. So this is a very important step because if you follow the world of media, retail media networks is a huge conversation right now to the point where you just saw Walmart by Vizio to try and leapfrog into this space in their own stores.

And so for us, it’s a real opportunity to help the people who aren’t of the girth and size of the Walmart to actually be able to play in the same space as they are and get control of that all-important data of what happens within the store.

Anthony Staniak : Yes. I think Kevin, exciting that take Quad’s relationships, which got up to the very highest level of retailers combine that with DART’s offering of what they have assembled, and we think there’s significant possibility to scale and it ties in, quite frankly, with the discussions we’re already having with physical in-store signage, and now digital in-store signage, rounding out our offerings to that group of retailers.

Kevin Steinke: Great. And then lastly, I’d just like to ask about reinstating the dividend. Certainly, that was welcome, I think, and just maybe the thought process that went into your decision to reinstate the dividend?

Joel Quadracci: Well, I think first and foremost, the sustainability of it. As we’ve wanted to come back to that point, we’re very careful about the balance sheet. I think we’ve proven ourselves that we’ve really done a great job of focusing on paying down debt to very low levels, and we’ll continue to do that. But we feel that launching a dividend at this size is very sustainable for us. Would we love to revisit it in the future? Of course, and we will to see if we can do more, but at this point, we like this as a great sustainable starting point. Tony?

Anthony Staniak : Yes. I’d add, Kevin, we — Quad was a long-time dividend payer. That was — it’s important to us to reward our shareholders. And so at the beginning of COVID, we stopped the dividend. It was the right prudent decision at the time. We focused on debt, got down to the low end of that range, our previous range of 2.0. And now to Joel’s point, can revisit turning this back on and providing that return to shareholders. So happy to be able to do that.

Kevin Steinke: Okay, great. Thanks for all the commentary. I’ll turn it back over.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Barton Crockett of Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

Barton Crockett : Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions here. And you guys have covered a lot from the presentation in the Q&A. But just stepping back, I mean, one thing I would appreciate kind of your perspective on Joel, is I think the real opportunity for your shares is to get back to a place of revenue growth. And what would it take to get there? I mean, do you need as kind of a prerequisite for that, the postal service to go to normalized kind of price, CPI price growth versus the outsized growth? Does that have to happen? Or is there a world where you can grow revenues again even if the postal service continues down the road that it’s laid out?

Joel Quadracci: Yes. I mean we’re going to continue to grow revenue through all the other services. I mean, in-store year-to-date was up 12% at the end. So that’s an example of how we’re doing that, and that comes from some of that multi feature relationship that we do with people. Certainly, more rational thinking of the post office would significantly help. And in fact, if you didn’t have that type of increase last year, we were feeling really good about sort of that flip point of having to deal with organic decline versus new revenue coming in. And so were we there yet? No, but we are heading that direction. And then with this surprise where people got caught, like I said in the second half, we saw that significant reaction to it.

I think the question is the post office keeps their trajectory, the customers will have to be very smart about how they manage through it with other cost initiatives and trying to pass on to customers. And so how that plays out will be seen, but I feel good about our ability to manage through it. I mean when I saw the postal increase happened last year, we closed a significant 40-year plant of ours that I had a very close relationship with for many years. I pulled forward closing that because of the postal increase just to make sure we can manage ahead of it and consolidate. And so that’s what we mean when we say we treat all costs as variable. If we see something happen on volume in core traditional lines, we know how to react to it. But at the same time, we’ll continue to grow all the other offerings, which will impact things like catalog, direct mail, packaging, in-store and agency.

So — but when you get that onetime surprise, there’s a big reaction that typically happens. And I hope even as they go forward, I’d hope to see that moderate, but it certainly puts some of the onus — a lot of onus on the customer base to be able to figure that out. But the bottom line is, is the catalog works, direct mail works. So it’s an important part of the go-forward media mix for people because that media mix landscape is a challenging one. You still have to sell your product.

Barton Crockett : Okay. All right. I appreciate that. Now I guess if you look at kind of the some of the question marks around the longer-term revenue trajectory. I understand your guidance for this year, but even after this year, there are some unknowns. To what degree should we expect you guys to continue to reduce debt? I know your next maturity is 2026, but there could be an argument if revenue pressures continue for some time to keep reducing debt. How do you guys kind of feel about that?