ON24, Inc. (NYSE:ONTF) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

ON24, Inc. (NYSE:ONTF) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript May 7, 2024

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Operator: Good day ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the ON24 First Quarter 2024 Investor Call. Our host for today’s call is [indiscernible], Investor Relations. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to your host Mr. [indiscernible] you may begin.

Unidentified Company Representative: Thank you. Hello and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to ON24’s first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. On the call with me today are Sharat Sharan, Co-Founder and CEO of ON24; and Steve Vattuone, Chief Financial Officer of ON24. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that some information provided during this call will include forward-looking statements regarding future events and financial performance, including guidance for the first quarter and full fiscal year 2024, as well as certain first quarter and full-year non-GAAP projections. These forward-looking statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could adversely affect ON24’s future results and cause these forward-looking statements to be inaccurate, including our ability to grow our revenue, attract new customers and expand sales to existing customers; the success of our new products and capabilities; other statements regarding our ability to achieve our business strategies, growth, or other future events or conditions such as the impact of adverse economic conditions and macroeconomic deterioration, including increased inflation.

ON24 cautions that these statements are not guarantees of future performance. All forward-looking statements made today reflect our current expectations only, and we undertake no obligation to update any statement to reflect the events that occur after this call. Please refer to the company’s periodic SEC filings and today’s financial press release for factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from any forward-looking statements. We’d also like to point out that on today’s call, we will report both GAAP and non-GAAP results. We use these non-GAAP financial measures to evaluate our ongoing operations and for internal planning and forecasting purposes. Non-GAAP financial measures are presented in addition to and not as a substitute for financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP.

To see the reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to today’s financial press release. I will now turn the call over to Sharat. Sharat?

Sharat Sharan: Thank you and welcome everyone to ON24’s first quarter 2024 financial results conference call. We appreciate you joining us. With me today is Steve Vattuone, Chief Financial Officer. Before we get into the results, a quick reminder of our platform and recent innovation. Our platform intelligently combines best-in class digital experiences, with AI-powered personalization and content, to enable industry-leading B2B enterprise companies to drive engagement at scale, act on connected insights and deliver cost-effective revenue growth, while also supporting compliance for highly regulated industries. These capabilities make our platform an ideal fit for use cases such as demand generation in technology and manufacturing, healthcare professional, and patient engagement in life sciences, continuing education in the professional services industry, and member enrollment and broker and agent enablement in commercial and health insurance.

In January, we launched our next generation intelligent engagement platform, which brought significant innovations, including our new AI-powered Analytics and Content Engine, called AI-powered ACE, which further drives revenue generation and more effective and efficient customer engagement. We’ll share an update on our platform evolution, enterprise focus, and profitability milestones later in the call. Turning to Q1 results. I am pleased to report that our momentum from the end of 2023 continued into Q1, with solid Q1 performance on the top line and another quarter of execution on our profitability target where we achieved positive adjusted EBITDA in Q1 for the fourth quarter in a row and also achieved positive non-GAAP EPS for the fourth quarter in a row.

Revenue from our core platform, including services, in Q1 of 2024 was $36.8 million, and total revenue including Virtual Conference was $37.7 million. Of total revenue for the quarter, subscription and other platform revenue was $34.8 million and professional services revenue was $2.9 million. Now, turning to ARR. We ended Q1 with $133.3 million in ARR related to our core platform, representing a sequential decrease from Q4 of $2.9 million, in line with the expectations we provided on our last earnings call. We continued to see meaningful signs of improvement in our install base. The actions we have taken to improve our gross retention rates are having a positive impact, with gross retention posting a mid-single-digit improvement both year-over-year and compared to the average gross retention in 2023.

We also continued to see meaningful reductions in downsells as a percentage of the renewal base, another sign of the growing stability within our install base. We are excited about our AI-powered ACE solution. Although we are still in the early stages of ARR contribution, the initial signs are positive. Our AI-powered ACE, ARR booked in Q1 as a percentage of growth ARR, during the quarter reached the double-digit mark, and we believe AI-powered ACE will be a tailwind to our ARR growth in the future. Despite the positive trends we saw in Q1, it is important to note that we are still operating in an uncertain environment, where marketing budget constraints continue to affect new logo acquisitions and as prospects remain in a longer holding pattern.

Because of this, coupled with some larger customer renewals coming due in the quarter, we decided to be incrementally prudent with our expectations for ARR growth in Q2. At the same time, we continue to believe that as marketing budgets begin to normalize, we will see customers re-invest in revenue generating initiatives, such as our platform. Further, we reiterate our expectation that assuming no deterioration in the macro environment, we will return to sequential ARR growth in the second half of 2024 driven by improving stability in our installed base, our new products and our enhanced go-to-market focus. Overall, I am excited by the progress we have made, and I’d like to provide an update on our three strategic growth priorities: first, the rollout of our next generation Intelligent Engagement Platform, which includes our new AI-powered ACE offering; second, continuing to strengthen our enterprise go-to-market strategy, especially with mission-critical, digital transformation use cases across regulated industries; third, focus on returning to growth while continuing to deliver on our profitability targets.

Starting with our next generation platform. As mentioned at the beginning of our call, in January we announced the general availability of the ON24 Intelligent Engagement Platform, which includes AI-powered ACE. Now, our platform enables enterprises to do more with less, with a differentiated AI-driven solution in three key ways: one, personalization at scale. We have developed what we believe to be the industry’s first and only capability for delivering unique messages to different audience segments within the same digital experience, whether a live webinar experience or an on-demand content experience. This means that our customers can turn standard experiences into personalized experiences that are highly targeted for the prospect, customer, or partner segments most important to their business, without losing their ability to scale reach across the globe.

Because personalization is such a business-critical issue for enterprise go-to-market teams, we are seeing traction from our install base. Since we made these features available in January, over 20% of our customers have turned on the capability and hundreds of segments have been built, which facilitates personalization. Two, derivative content. One of the most time-consuming and costly aspects of sales and marketing today is creating the different types of content and videos that are needed to execute a high-performing digital campaign. Our platform’s generative AI. makes it possible for our customers to turn their long-form event presentations into new promotional copy, ebooks, snackable videos, and others. With a simple click of a button, our customers can generate at least five times as many assets than they started with.

Over the past three months, our customers have used our platform to produce thousands of new videos and written pieces of content, saving them resources and fueling their pipeline results. Three, continuous engagement and nurtures. Today, it takes a significant number of marketing and sales interactions for enterprises to acquire and expand their customers. At the same time, there’s increasing pressure for go-to-market teams to get revenue results faster, forcing teams to try to condense and expedite interactions. We believe our platform’s nurture capabilities unlocks a new way to expedite interactions, personalized to the individual, extending the life of an event and its content, beyond its live day, and helping our customers close this gap by nurturing people, through the delivery of continuous personalized content.

In Q1, we saw some of our early adopters get as much as a 5% increase in engagement by using our automated nurtures to drive continuous engagement beyond their live event. Based on the success of our early adopters, we are optimistic about the traction of the intelligent engagement platform and AI-powered ACE. Since the beginning of the year, over 15% of our customers have used or tested our AI capabilities. As stated earlier, our AI-powered ACE ARR booked in Q1 as a percentage of growth ARR during the quarter reached the double-digit mark, and we continue to see a healthy pipeline of demand. To give some color, here are a few AI-powered ACE wins from Q1. The first AI-powered ACE win I’ll highlight is with a large enterprise software company with over 1,000 employees.

After already seeing strong results using our platform in North America, this organization wanted to standardize their go-to-market execution across the globe and consolidate their tech stack on our platform, removing point solutions. By adding AI-powered ACE, their US based corporate team would be able to develop global campaigns that their field marketing teams in APAC and EMEA can then localize and personalize for their specific market needs. This gives their resource-strapped teams greater efficiency while giving them a more consistent and streamlined way to go to market.The next AI-powered ACE win came from a multi-billion-dollar cloud software company with over 5,000 employees. Having faced a reduction in resources, their team was looking for a way to efficiently nurture their prospects, increase conversion to pipeline, and accelerate deals.

Using AI-powered ACE, their marketing team is able to automatically produce streams of short-form video content from their long-form webinars and deliver them across channels and tailor them for specific audiences. They believe this will help them increase engagement and better educate leads throughout the sales cycle, improving their pipeline efficiency and results. As we continue to develop and mature our next generation offering, we are laser focused on helping our customers take actions with the first party data our platform generates. We believe our foundation of first party data that’s been gathered across millions of experiences and hundreds of millions of B2B interactions gives us a competitive edge and uniquely positions ON24 to lead the market in AI innovation for marketing and sales engagement Moving to our next priority, our enterprise go-to-market focus.

Our Q1 enterprise business performance was strong across our key metrics. The average core ARR per customer reached a record high, demonstrating our enterprise customer focus. Additionally, the percentage of ARR in multi-year agreements and the percentage of customers using two or more products, again, landed at record levels. In addition to the strong enterprise customer metrics in Q1, our go-to-market execution remains focused on our enterprise customers with increased emphasis on industries that are still in the early stages of digital transformation, primarily life sciences and financial services, including asset management and insurance. In fact, we’ve been able to diversify our business over the last few years with these above-mentioned verticals having grown from 20% to almost one of the third of our total core ARR in just over four years.

Overall, close to a quarter of our business now comes from mission critical, digital transformation use cases. For example, we work with large pharma companies to develop a digital strategy for engaging healthcare professionals that supports compliance, enabling their company’s brands to scale their commercial and medical education across the globe. Similarly, professional services organizations use our platform to take their continuing professional education programs digital, automating the process to save their teams significant time and resources while generating more leads and pipeline. And in the financial services vertical, asset management and commercial insurance firms enable advisors, agents, and brokers through our platform as well as directly engage new investors and members, helping to scale their reach and drive business growth.

We believe that this diversification gives our business greater resiliency and positions us for growth. To give you more color on our enterprise focus, let me highlight a few new business wins in Q1. First, we landed one of the world’s largest hedge fund administrators, a company that manages trillions of assets and has over 10,000 employees. As they matured their digital sales and marketing strategy this organization needed a purpose-built platform that would help them scale professional certification and generate leads for their business development team. Given their investor and institutional focus, our first-party data was important to providing insights that they could use to deliver a high-touch, personalized customer experience at scale.

Next, we won a deal with one of the largest private hospital providers in the United Kingdom with over $1 billion in revenue and more than 8,000 employees. As a hospital network, the company operates a decentralized go-to-marketing strategy that requires direct patient outreach in local cities across the country. They came to us seeking a more cost-effective and data-driven way to engage patients while supporting compliance. Now, our platform will centralize patient education across each of their hospitals, streamlining and enriching their insights for more efficient execution and a better patient experience. And, finally, an update on profitability. In Q1, we continued our momentum from last year and achieved our profitability targets, delivering positive adjusted EBITDA and positive non-GAAP EPS for the fourth quarter in a row.

We expect to be EBITDA breakeven in Q2 and remain committed to achieving our target of EBITDA breakeven for 2024. To conclude, the first quarter was a solid start to a pivotal year for ON24. We beat on our top line and profitability targets and are encouraged by the continued signs of stability we see in our install base, with a mid-single-digit improvement of retention when compared to both Q1 2023 and 2023 as a whole. We are seeing early signs of traction with our newly launched AI-powered ACE, and are building a healthy pipeline, and we are focusing our go-to-market execution successfully on customers with mission-critical digital transformation initiatives. Additionally, we have a streamlined organization that is meeting our profitability targets, and we are driving an improvement in our gross margin profile while maintaining a healthy cash flow.

In the longer term, we are attacking a massive market opportunity, by enabling B2B companies to leverage ON24’s digital engagement platform to more efficiently grow revenue and engage and understand their customers and prospects. These factors give me confidence that the stage is set for ON24 to continue executing on our strategic growth priorities and reach our long-term targets of double-digit revenue growth and double-digit EBITDA margins. With that, I’d like to turn the call over to Steve.

Steve Vattuone: Thank you, Sharat, and good afternoon, everyone. I’m going to start with our first quarter 2024 results and will then discuss our outlook for the second quarter of 2024 and full year 2024. Before I get into the numbers, I wanted to remind everyone that our focus, as it was in the prior quarters, will be on the core platform business, as we have deemphasized the Virtual Conference product. We view the metrics from our core platform such as revenue and ARR as the best KPIs to measure our performance. Revenue from our core platform, including services in Q1 from 2024 was $36.8 million, representing a decrease of 11% year-over-year. Total revenue for the first quarter, which includes revenue from our Virtual Conference product, was $37.7 million.

Total subscription and other platform revenue was $34.8 million. Overages represented approximately 1% of total revenue in Q1. Total Professional Services revenue was $2.9 million, a decrease of 22% year-over-year, representing approximately 8% of total revenue compared to 9% in the year-ago period. Moving on to ARR. ARR represents the annualized value of all subscription contracts at the end of the period and excludes professional services and overages. Ending ARR related to our core platform totaled $133.3 million, a decrease of $2.9 million compared to Q4 of 2023, and in line with the expectations we provided on our last earnings call. As Sharat discussed, we saw continued signs of stabilization in our install base in Q1, with gross retention in Q1 improving both year-over-year, and also when compared to average gross retention for 2023 as a whole.

Customers continued to be cautious about making new purchasing commitments in Q1, as their marketing budgets remained under pressure. Total ARR, including the contribution from our Virtual Conference product, was $136.5 million at the end of Q1 2024, as compared to $139.7 million at the end of Q4 2023. Turning to customer metrics. The ARR contribution from the $100,000-plus customer cohort continues to represent approximately two-thirds of our total ARR, which is consistent with the prior quarter and demonstrates the continued strength of our largest enterprise customers and their commitment to our platform. The number of customers contributing more than $100,000 in total ARR was 324 approximately flat from last quarter. Enterprise customers continue to be our focus, and throughout 2023, we continued to see our customers make longer-term commitments to our platform, and this trend continued into Q1 of 2024.

The percentage of our ARR in multi-year contracts increased sequentially from the prior quarter and is now over 50% of our ARR. The percentage of our customers with two or more products also increased to record levels in Q1. In Q1, we also saw the average core ARR per customer increase to the highest level ever at just over $78,000 per customer. Total customer count at the end of Q1 was 1,698 customers. Customers with less than $25,000 of ARR were the largest contributor to logo churn in Q1. Before turning to expense items and profitability, I would like to point out that I will be discussing non-GAAP results going forward. Our non-GAAP results exclude stock-based compensation, restructuring charges, impairment charges for real estate, amortization of acquired intangibles, shareholder activism related costs, as well as certain other items.

Our GAAP financial results, along with a reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP results, can be found within our earnings release. Gross margin in Q1 was 77%, consistent with Q4 of 2023. Our gross margins reflect the cost reduction actions we have taken to streamline our operations. Now, turning to operating expenses. Sales and marketing expense in Q1 was $16.3 million compared to $20.1 million in Q1 last year. This represents 43% of total revenue compared to 47% in the same period last year and 42% last quarter. Our sales and marketing expenses have decreased in absolute dollars, both sequentially and year-over-year, largely due to the cost savings measures we have implemented as we focus on driving improved sales efficiency. R&D expense in Q1 was $6.7 million, compared to $8.2 million in Q1 last year.

This represents 18% of total revenue compared to 19% in the same period last year and 17% last quarter. While we have made adjustments to our spending levels, we will continue investing in product innovation to drive the next generation of our platform. In early 2024, we launched our new AI-powered ACE solution along with the next generation of our platform, the ON24 Intelligent Engagement Platform, demonstrating our commitment to continued product innovation. G&A expense in Q1 was $6.7 million, compared to $7.5 million in Q1 last year. This represents 18% of total revenue, up slightly from 17% in the same period last year and last quarter. G&A spending in Q1 includes certain costs, which are seasonally higher in Q1, such as costs related to our annual audit.

We took actions to reduce our G&A costs, and as a result, our G&A expenses and absolute dollars have decreased as compared to the prior year. Moving on to our bottom-line performance. I am pleased to report that we exceeded the profitability targets that we provided in the prior earnings call. We achieved positive adjusted EBITDA and non-GAAP EPS profitability in Q1. This marks the fourth consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA and non-GAAP EPS profitability. The continued improvements in our operational efficiency that we made throughout 2023 and in early 2024 have provided us with a more streamlined and efficient cost structure for 2024 and beyond. Operating loss for Q1 was $0.8 million or a negative 2% operating margin, compared to an operating loss of $4.2 million and a negative 10% operating margin in the same period last year.

Net income in Q1 was $1 million, or $0.02 per share, based on approximately 45.6 million diluted shares outstanding. This compares to a net loss of $1.8 million, or $0.04 per share, in Q1 last year, using approximately 47.3 million basic and diluted shares outstanding. Turning to the balance sheet and cash flow. We ended the quarter with $196.1 million in cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities. Before turning to our cash flow metrics, I am pleased to announce that the $125 million capital return program we announced in March 2023, which comprised a special dividend of approximately $50 million paid to shareholders in Q2 of 2023, and a $75 million share repurchase program, was fully completed in February of this year. As a reminder, under our prior share repurchase program we started in late 2021, we returned $41 million through February 2023.

With the completion of these two programs, we have now returned approximately $166 million to shareholders. We also announced a new $25 million share repurchase program in March of this year. This repurchase program runs for one year or until March 2025, and to date we have not utilized any amounts under this program. With just under $200 million of cash and investments at the end of Q1 2024, our balance sheet continues to remain strong. Turning to our cash flow metrics for Q1. Cash provided by operations in Q1 was $2.1 million compared to cash used in operations of $4.2 million in Q1 of last year. Free cash flow was positive $1.1 million in Q1 compared to negative $4.3 million in Q1 last year. As a reminder, our cash flow in Q1 includes costs related to our structuring efforts, and we paid out $0.7 million in Q1 related to this.

Before moving to guidance, I want to reiterate that we are pleased with the substantial progress we have made to stabilize the install base and the initial traction we are seeing from AI-powered ACE. However, as Sharat mentioned, the macro backdrop for marketing budgets remains uncertain and visibility has not improved. In addition, our Q2 renewal base includes some larger customers, so we are factoring an incremental level of conservatism into our expectations for Q2 net new ARR. Overall, despite the strong progress we have made controlling what we can control, we continue to take a prudent approach to our top-line financial modeling for the remainder of 2024, and assuming no deterioration in the macro environment, we continue to expect that we will return to sequential ARR growth in the second half of 2024.

Turning to Q2 guidance, we expect Q2 core platform revenue, including services, in the range of $35 million to $36 million, and total revenue, which includes our virtual conference product, in the range of $35.8 million to $36.8 million. Professional services is expected to represent approximately 8% of total revenue. We expect gross margins to be in the mid-70s in Q2. We expect a non-GAAP operating loss in the range of $1.7 million to $0.7 million, and non-GAAP net income per share of $0.00 per share to $0.02 per share based on 46.9 million diluted shares outstanding. We expect to be EBITDA break-even in Q2, and we expect a restructuring charge of $0.6 million to $0.9 million in Q2, related to our ongoing cost reduction efforts, which is excluded from the non-GAAP amounts provided above.

We expect our core platform ARR at the end of Q2 to decline by 2% to 3% sequentially in Q2 compared to Q1. In addition, ARR from our de-emphasized virtual conference product is expected to reduce by approximately $0.7 million in Q2 compared to Q1. We expect ARR from our virtual conference product to be approximately $2.5 million at the end of Q2. Now let me turn to our annual guidance. For the full year, we expect core platform revenue, including services to be in the range of $139.8 million to $143.8 million. We expect total revenue to be in the range of $143 million to $147 million. Professional services is expected to represent approximately 8% of total revenue. We expect a non-GAAP operating loss in the range of $5.5 million to $3.5 million, and non-GAAP net income per share of $0.03 per share to $0.07 per share, using approximately 47.2 million diluted shares outstanding.

We expect gross margins to be consistent with 2023, which was 75%. We expect to be EBITDA break-even for 2024. Structuring charges and amortization of acquired intangibles are excluded from the full year non-GAAP amounts provided above. This guidance reflects a balanced approach between maintaining cost discipline while also allowing us to invest to return to growth. In summary, we continue to see signs of stabilization in our customer base, clear signs of improvement and retention, and are excited about the recent launch of the ON24 Intelligent Engagement Platform, which is showing early signs of traction with AI-powered ACE starting to contribute to growth ARR, and we continue to diversify our business. We have received strong customer feedback on our new products and expect pipeline and customer deployment for these initiatives to continue to grow as the year progresses.

On the spending front, we have continued to deliver on our profitability targets while driving incremental improvements in our gross margins and cash flow, and we will continue to be disciplined on spending while balancing investments and product innovation with the long-term goal to achieve double-digit top-line growth with double-digit EBITDA margins in the future. With that, Sharat and I will open the call up for questions.

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Q&A Session

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Scott Berg with Needham. Your line is open.

Scott Berg: Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I have a couple here. Let’s start with the churn cycle, Sharat. You can be a little bit more comfortable with the statement of returning to ARR growth in second half this year, this quarter you mentioned that last quarter you see it as convinced of that and I get the conservatism in the second quarter guide with a couple of large deals. But when you look at that ARR in the second half, how high is your I guess confidence or visibility into the ability to actually grow ARR. And I ask it relative to I think a year ago you were hoping to grow ARR in 2023 as well and that didn’t quite happen. So just trying to understand what that – what might be different this time versus your prior expectation? Thank you.

Sharat Sharan: Yes. Scott on ARR, first on Q1 ARR, we delivered ARR performance in line with our expectations. I think we are seeing improved stability in our installed base and gross retention improved year-over-year by mid-single digits and down sales improved for a second quarter in a row. I mean you know we’ve had some challenges with down sales in the last couple of years but we are seeing steady improvement in that. And our gross bookings as a percent – as a percentage of growth ARR in Q1 included an incremental uplift from AI-Powered ACE that reached double-digit mark as a percentage of new growth ARR. So we delivered what we said in Q1. And in Q2, when we think about it, we are making progress on retention. We believe as a business is continuing to stabilize.

We are seeing traction on AI-Powered ACE and also our use case focus from a go-to-market on mission-critical digital transformation use cases that includes pharma and life sciences. But we are still operating in an uncertain environment, where marketing budgets are constrained. So we are — and we are being incrementally prudent with our expectations for ARR in Q2, due to these larger customer renewals coming due in Q2. And it is early in the quarter. Now you talked about the second half. First of all, we were almost there in Q4 last year. So we are very close to positive ARR. We are seeing stabilization in the installed base. And for second half of 2024, we expect to make continued progress in gross retention, both in churn and down-sell. Two, we believe our focus on mission-critical digital transformation use cases will be a driver of new business and three, we expect to continue to make progress on AI-Powered ACE.

Based on that, we still expect that we will return to sequential ARR growth in the second half of 2024.

Scott Berg: Got it. Helpful. And then, Steve, wanted to maybe think about how you’re thinking about the model kind of going forward here. You’ve clearly taken out a lot of costs in the model. I know we’re still not quite profitable, given what’s going on with the overall business. But have you set up the model to require revenue growth to get to those long-term adjusted EBITDA targets in the mid-teens or better. Or is there a scenario where you can reach that in a market where budgets are still tight and constrained and ARR growth as it may be positive, but minimal at the same time. It’s a question I’ve had a lot from Investors day, at least just trying to understand where the profitability of the model can come in if we’re still in a challenge macro for the next year or 2 for marketing logistics. Thank you.

Steve Vattuone: Scott, there were, I think, two questions there. So let me go ahead and take the first one first, which is about profitability. So first, we did achieve adjusted EBITDA profitability and EPS profitability for four quarters in a row. So we’ve now moved the company to a more profitable operating model this past year. We’ve improved our gross margins over the past year from 73% in Q1 of 2023 to 77% this quarter. And in addition, in Q1, we also delivered positive operating and free cash flow. So we now have a more streamlined organization, and we’re committed to maintaining that. We are guiding to EBITDA breakeven or better for the year end 2024. Now in 2024, we are taking a balanced approach. We’re continuing to invest in the business, especially around AI, while remaining disciplined on cost and delivering EBITDA breakeven.

Our goal for the company is long-term gross margins, long-term is to get to gross margins of 78% to 80% and 20% for operating margin. We’re working to get there over time. Now the other question, do we need to invest more to grow? So currently, the expense structure is about where we want it, but we’ll, of course, adjust it as need as we’ve done in the past. We will be making investments going forward, but those are really going to be based on the top line, and we’re continuing to evaluate that. We’re always optimizing to return to top line growth, but we’re also balancing profitability. Some of the investments we’re looking at making or are making are on AI-Powered ACE. We’re bringing it to market and continuing to develop it. Regulated use case in pharma and financial services and Sharat discussed that we’re making some investments there.

We are focused on making some other selective investments in certain categories, while also being disciplined on our cost and sales and investments are going to be driven by productivity that we’re seeing there.

Scott Berg: Understood. Very helpful. Thank you for taking my question.

Operator: Your next question comes from Rob Oliver with Baird. Your line is open.

Rob Oliver: Great. Thanks for taking my questions guys. Sharat, I had a question on AI-powered ACE. I know it’s still early. It’s obviously really impressive when you guys did the demo events. From the early adopters that you mentioned, what sort of uplift are you seeing there? And I guess maybe echoing Scott’s question, is that a component of the pipeline comfort that gives you comfort in being able to grow ARR in the second half as well?

Sharat Sharan: So let me take the second first. The answer is absolutely. We expect that the contribution for AI-powered ACE to ramp during the course of the year, and provide tailwinds into 2025. So let me go back to the first question on utilization and just to remind people AI -powered ACE includes three modules, forces, personalization at scale using audience segmentation. Second is ability to deliver derivative content like blogs, e-books, takeaways from long-form webinar content; and third, enhanced audience nurture using key moment videos from long-form video content. So you know the AI-powered ACE bookings reached double-digit market as the percentage of growth ARR in its first quarter after launch, we launched at the end of January.