Olin Corporation (NYSE:OLN) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Aleksey Yefremov: Thanks, Scott. And coming back to your configuration with Dow, as you mentioned, Dow will shut some PO capacity at Freeport that will free up some of your chlor alkali capacity. Should we assume that that’s not used in any way? Or is it more likely that you’ll look for some other derivative opportunities either through joint ventures, other arrangements or even organic investments downstream of chlor alkali.

Scott Sutton: Well, I would just say it opens up possibilities, right? And those are sort of some of the free options that we have going forward and we haven’t made a decision about that.

Aleksey Yefremov: Got it. Thanks a lot.

Scott Sutton: Sure.

Operator: Thank you. The next question comes from Matthew Blair with TPH.

Matthew Blair: Hey, good morning Scott and Todd, circling back to the Dow contracts, Scott, you mentioned it was a positive resolution there. Should we think about this as being more significant on the free cash flow side for you than the EBITDA side? Or can you give us any color on that?

Scott Sutton: So, I would say it’s probably favorable for both parties on both sides, because there’s some real win-win elements of this, and that not only helps how we’re both running our day-to-day operations, but it also prevents inefficient investments on both parties side, which drives free cash flow. So, I would just say it’s a positive for both parties on both those fronts.

Matthew Blair: Sounds good. And then do you have any more commentary on the epoxy side. In terms of demand, could you talk about how things are going in areas like electronics and wind and autos?

Scott Sutton: Yes. I mean, look, the demand in all of those areas as well, at least in electronics was certainly sluggish. Automotive coatings at least in the U.S. has shown some recent recovery and you’ve seen some of that in the coatings company’s earnings announcement here. There is a nice portfolio of wind projects, and that’s one of the biggest outlets for our systems activities, but those projects go through stops and starts, and there’s been some level of inventory adjustment in those supply chains. But I would say all three of those areas as we move into 2024 are positive.

Matthew Blair: Sounds good. Thank you.

Scott Sutton: Yep.

Operator: Thank you. And the next question from Frank Mitsch with Fermium Research.

Frank Mitsch: Hey, good morning. If I could just point of clarification. The new terms on the Dow contract, did they take place when the old one was supposed to expire in October of 2025? Or is there a different effective date for the new terms?

Scott Sutton: Yes. I mean that’s roughly right. I mean, Frank, I won’t comment on all the different dates and all the different improvements, but I guess you can average it there.

Frank Mitsch: All right. Awesome. Thank you. And yes, I totally appreciate the difficulties in the epoxy business, and obviously, you’ve been taking number of steps to improve your own footprint. You’ve outlined some of them. And I know in the past, you’ve indicated that some of these actions should start to lead to a $50 million annual EBITDA improvement starting in the fourth quarter, given the degradation in the broader markets, how should we think about sort of these actions that Olin is proactively taking will start impacting your income statement.

Scott Sutton: Yes. I mean, principally, you’ll see it more in 2024. It’s actually being effective today and into the fourth quarter, Frank. But we’re having to clean up our inventory on the balance sheet a bit. And that is offsetting some of that underlying improvement that will expose itself after a couple of quarters here.

Frank Mitsch: Got it. Thank you so much.

Scott Sutton: Sure.