And absent that, sizing our capital plan to make sure we’re keeping customer bills in mind, keeping our balance sheet in mind, but also keeping the ability to keep the lights on and the gas flowing in mind, it’s a challenge, but we think it’s important in the current environment to have no equity in the plan, regardless of structure.
Jamieson Ward: Got you. Thank you for that. And in the case that you do end up making use of leverage at the HoldCo for one reason or another as time goes on, it’s something that you’ll have available to you. Do you have any concerns around the commission eventually imputing double leverage?
Crystal Lail: You’re way ahead of me, Jamieson. Our message to the commission and the ring-fencing we set up is same company. It’s the structure every other utility uses. And certainly, HoldCo leverage is no longer free as it was for a while or close to darn free. So, we have no intentions there. The message we’ve given our commissioner and our filings is any of our unsecured borrowings are not in our capital structure. And none of this change. While it’s a legal restructuring, changes any of that message to the commission on how we think about our capital structure.
Jamieson Ward: Got you. Thank you. Very clear. And that’s it for HoldCo questions. Just had, well, I guess two more quick ones here. One was just, how many years does the no equity commitment last? I know the question was asked earlier about whether when you roll forward to the five-year plan, would you be changing the messaging, and you said you wouldn’t be doing that. But just wondering if you can give us any additional color on how long that might hold for.
Crystal Lail: Jamieson, I think your question is a little similar to Jonathan’s, which it will definitely hold for three weeks until EEI, but that’s my sarcasm coming through. As we think about our current five-year plan, there’s no equity in that. I would tell you very candidly, every year, we’re going to take a look at that. We’re going to take a look at what financing makes sense and what our opportunities are in the plan. But as we plan out that current five-year plan and what we will roll forward at EEI on the CapEx side, we intend to hold to the no equity as long as the current environment looks like it does. But we will continue to evaluate that and update you guys on an annual basis like we always do.
Jamieson Ward: Got it. Thank you. And then, the timing of rate cases was already answered, lumpiness was answered. Last one I have is, were there any asks that you had in this case, which in hindsight it might not have been the right time for, but anything that you might potentially reincorporate into your next rate filing and look to maybe achieve, accomplish, or add to your regulatory tools at that point in time?
Brian Bird: That’s a good question, Jamieson. I would say it this way. We tried some methods. We deviated from just the historical test year concept and just going with that. We tried some trackers. We believe all three of those make great sense. We obviously through the settlement got the deferral on our wildfire program, which is very, very helpful for us to obviously be able to allocate more dollars to that program. And we’re going to have to continue to look at those types of trackers and other mechanisms to help us recover quicker. And we believe ultimately over time, we’ll persuade not only the commission, but the intervening parties just from the ability to make it an easier means to recover our costs, and maybe allow us not to be as frequent filers from a rate review perspective.
Jamieson Ward: Got it. Thank you very much. Appreciate the answers.
Crystal Lail: Thanks, Jamieson.
Brian Bird: Hey, Jamieson, one other thing for you, you guys ask the hard questions, so we kind of want to make it hard for you to get in to ask yours. So, just so you know.
