ManpowerGroup Inc. (NYSE:MAN) Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Jonas Prising : Yes, Mark, thanks for that. PERM is currently at 15.3%. And I know you inquired on this last quarter as well. It has stepped down a little bit. Last quarter it was about 16.5%. And I think that just reflects the continued stabilization. I think year-over-year, the rate in PERM decline year-over-year was about the same. And we’re just seeing that kind of work its way in. So, I think that reflects, and I think we commented a little bit on this last quarter as well. I think that reflects a range that’s in line with where we were pre-pandemic. So, PERM has stabilized quite a bit and is more of a typical mix of our GP on an overall basis.

Mark Marcon: That’s great. And then you’ve got a number of efficiency initiatives in place. I’m wondering, do you have any updates with regards to, as we think about the unwinding of the Proservia business, what that would end up doing with regards to German margins, all things being equal. And then, Jonas, you mentioned a number of initiatives that you put in place, including we’ve got the deployment of PowerSuite, we’ve got some new AI initiatives in place. How, like as we go out, say, six months to a year from now, how much more efficient could Manpower be?

Jack McGinnis: So I’ll start that, Mark, with your question on Germany specifically. And yes, I think the wind down of Proservia is a major step forward in improving the profitability of Germany. It was a very complex wind down. We’re very happy with the way that was conducted. And as I mentioned in our prepared remarks, we’ve substantially concluded all the one-off actions related to that. So where we are now is just, we’re down to the final runoff of client contracts through the first half of next year. In my guide, we don’t disclose profitability outside the major markets, but what I will say directly to answer your question, in my guide, I do carve out the runoff impact of Proservia for the first quarter. So I said that that’s about 20 basis points on the margin, if you were to include it.

If you do the math, that would indicate a loss of about $7 million at the midpoint for that business. So I think, directionally, that gives you a bit of an idea of, that will run off after the second quarter and that will be removed from the run rate. And so that will have a significant impact in improving Germany’s profitability once we get to the midpoint of 2024. So it gives you a little bit of an idea of the improvement. And we feel very good about the progress we’ve made on the Manpower side, as you’ve seen from the revenue growth rates in Germany. And that will be very good for us in the second half of the year.

Jonas Prising : And Mark, to talk a bit about the efficiencies, a good starting point is probably DDI. So our diversification strategy is all about improving our margin mix within and between our brands so that we move into higher margin businesses. And I think we’ve made some excellent progress. And as we noted in our prepared remarks, our margin, our GP margin has been resilient. And that’s really great to see. Some of that comes, of course, from an improved business mix within our brands as well as between our brands. The digitization efforts that we’ve been working on almost for four years now have really established us at the forefront of our industry because we’re deploying common global platforms for front and back office and web properties.

And we are implementing now the last big operations and as I mentioned in the prepared remarks by the end of this year, substantially all of our revenues will run through the same web and front office platforms. And that’s what we’re really excited about because we think that there are clearly efficiencies and productivity initiatives that we can now drive not only in each country but across geographies and implemented at speed and scale in a way we were never able to do before. But it also means that we can improve recruiter productivity and drive fill rates up in a way as we transfer best practices and we implement new tools to support our recruiters become even more successful and productive at a scale and speed that we’ve never been able to do before.

But as I also mentioned in my prepared remarks, one of the things that I’ve learned as it relates to AI in general and Generative AI in particular is that to take advantage of these new technologies which look immensely promising in so many areas, the requirement to be able to take advantage of those is to have a modern technology infrastructure. And of course that’s exactly what we have been building for a number of years. So it’s too early to talk about the impact of large language models and Generative AI now but the promise they hold we think is immensely exciting and we feel very good about how we are positioned to take advantage of those improvements as they come to market because we have a global platform where we can deploy them across all of our global organization at the same time.

And that is exactly what we’re working on as we look ahead into the future.

Mark Marcon: Thanks for that, Jonas. And then, Jonas, you were a Davos. You obviously get to talk to lots of European leaders while you’re there as well as your own people. How are your clients in Europe thinking about the economic environment unfolding for this year? You mentioned it. It lags the U.S. but there’s obviously supply chain constraints that might be impacted by what’s occurring geopolitically at this point in time. And fuel prices continue to be high and then you’ve got farmers that are revolting. What’s the general sense there in terms of how far along are we in terms of this period of softness and when we might see an inflection? I know you’re hesitant to say when the inflection could occur, but does it feel like it’s getting worse or is it stabilizing?