Lazard Ltd (NYSE:LAZ) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Peter Orszag: Sure. So, on the ramp or onboarding, it does take somewhere between a year or two, sometimes three for people to be fully productive that can stretch out to four. In some cases, it depends on the sector and the person obviously. And the internal promotions are a bit different than the laterals, but I think you should be thinking about a year or two to become fully productive. So, you’re right that we’ve got this pipeline of managing directors that we’ve been adding in private debt in the Middle East, in Germany, and elsewhere that will be coming, kind of fully online in the months and years ahead. And then with regard to the opportunities, we still do see significant opportunities for us to be picking up additional people and wallet share.

And in fact, the hiring environment may become more attractive. So, we need to balance the fact that we’re in a €“ that we need to balance the fact that there is a significant amount of opportunity out there in terms of people that are available against just being responsible on costs in the way that Ken already emphasized.

Devin Ryan: Great. Thanks so much. I’ll leave it there.

Operator: Our next question comes from Brennan Hawken from UBS.

Brennan Hawken: Hey, good morning, Ken and Mary Ann. How are you? So, wanted to ask a follow-up, Ken, on your tone around advisory. That certainly sounded optimistic and seems like an improvement from the tone that we heard from December when there were a bunch of updates with conferences. So, we’d love to explore that a little bit and get a sense about whether or not it’s just dialogue. In the past, we’ve heard that there’s been a bit of a hesitance around pulling the trigger on deals? Are you sensing that that hesitance is abating or is it more that the dialogue is ramping and once there’s some improved clarity, then we’ll really see it follow through?

Kenneth Jacobs: Great question. And I think you’re right. There has been a bit of an improvement in sentiments from where we were at €“ in the middle or beginning to middle of fourth quarter. So, a couple of things to note. I point to these a lot equity, credit conditions, equity prices, credit conditions, sentiment, and then usually there’s a catalyst. I think I’ll use the same old story here. On equity conditions, obviously, valuations are probably more reasonable than they were prior to the downturn early last year from the invasion. Credit conditions are clearly improving, and spreads have tightened since the beginning of the year. I think yesterday’s announcement by the Fed more importantly, the reaction of the market to it because I think there may be a disconnect there a little bit, has been constructive.

And when you look at credit conditions and you think about where rates are today, historically, they’re still pretty low, compared to most periods of time and such. And then finally on sentiment, I think generally speaking, people, and most observers would concede that today things are just better off than what they would have guessed they would be six months ago. And I think that helps around sentiment. I think also the fact that GDP numbers both here and in Europe have been better than what’s expected. We have China coming online in second half of this year. So, generally speaking, I think the overall environment and sentiments in the boardroom is probably starting to improve. That is a precondition for activity with bad credit conditions and unconstructive sentiment, you’re not going to get M&A activity.