Intellicheck, Inc. (NASDAQ:IDN) Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Intellicheck, Inc. (NASDAQ:IDN) Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript May 9, 2023

Operator: Hello, and welcome to the Intellicheck First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call and Webcast. . It’s now my pleasure to turn the call over to Gar Jackson, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Gar Jackson: Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us today for the Intellicheck First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Before we get started, I will take a few minutes to read the forward-looking statements. Certain statements in this conference call constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended. When used in this conference call, words such as will, believe, expect, anticipate, encourage and similar expressions as they relate to the company or its management as well as assumptions made by and information currently available to the company’s management, identify forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

. These forward-looking statements are based on management’s current expectations and beliefs about future events. As with any projection or forecast, they are inherently susceptible to uncertainty and changes in circumstances, and the company undertakes no obligation to, and expressly disclaims any obligation to, update or alter its forward-looking statements, whether resulting from such changes, new information, subsequent events or otherwise. Additional information concerning forward-looking statements is contained under the headings of Safe Harbor Statement and Risk Factors, listed from time to time in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Statements made on today’s call are as of today, May 9, 2023. Management will use the financial term adjusted EBITDA in today’s call.

Please refer to the company’s press release issued this afternoon for further definition, reconciliation and context for the use of this term. We will begin today’s call with Bryan Lewis, Intellicheck’s Chief Executive Officer; and then Jeff Ishmael, Intellicheck’s Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss the Q1 2023 financial results. Following their prepared remarks, we will take questions from our analysts and institutional investors. Today’s call will be limited to 1 hour, and I will now turn the call over to Bryan.

Bryan Lewis: Thank you, Gar, and welcome, everyone, to the Q1 2023 Earnings Call. As you saw from the earnings release, total revenue was $4.25 million, up 25% year-over-year, and SaaS revenue was $4.22 million, up 26% year-over-year. As expected, this is down 5% from Q4 2022 when our retail store revenue is typically sequentially down given the seasonality of the peak holiday shopping season. The fact that we are down less sequentially than we have been historically illustrates that we are delivering on an increasingly diversified client base, which I will be speaking about later. Adjusted EBITDA was a negative $556,000 , down from a negative $807,000 in Q1 2022. As I’ve said on previous calls, we will be watching expenses very closely this year with the continued focus of getting back to EBITDA breakeven over time.

Our top line revenues continue to grow, and I’m happy to say that our trailing 12-month SaaS revenues have increased each month for the past 39 months. In looking at the numbers, we’re going to first look at the importance of the growing diversity of our client base, which is a primary growth brokerage for us and what we are seeing year-over-year with the existing and new customers across some of our major verticals. Overall, apparel stores are down 3% versus Q1 of 2022. Most of that is driven by a few retailers that I’m sure you’re hearing about in the media. As you have no doubt heard, some are down as much as 30%. That has largely been offset, however, by apparel retailers that we added throughout the year and with those, who are not fully implemented in Q1 last year.

Furniture is down 7% for the period comparison. It’s important to recognize, however, that since these tend to be low-volume accounts, it is better for us to charge a fixed fee each month per location, so the decline does not have a significant impact on revenue. Turning to verticals where we saw growth. Cosmetics and beauty products were up 3% versus Q1 2022 as this space continues to perform well post pandemic. Automotive volumes more than doubled versus Q1 2022 and are up 117%. Revenue from a leading reseller partner in this space was up 93% for the same period comparison, and we are in discussions with them to find ways to work even more closely together as this has been a fruitful partnership for both companies. Banking and lending, which includes use cases like teller workstation, online and mobile apps, call centers and buy now pay later, were up 40% versus Q1 2022.

As I said on the last call, we’re getting a lot of interest from title companies. In this last quarter, we signed over a dozen title companies, including a cash flow solutions provider, who will be acting as a reseller in this space. Resellers will continue to be a large focus for our growth efforts going forward. I should also point out that we continue to see strong inbound leads and interest in the title space that has also benefited from referrals from other users. Now a few updates on some of our pilot programs. Unfortunately, the regional banking pilots were delayed. That isn’t surprising given all that’s going on in that space currently. The 1,400 location bank looking to do the 3-month pilot with our products integrated into their bank system was not able to roll out the software update from their scanning vendor into their tech scanners for the date they initially targeted causing the delay.

However, I think the delay will actually prove our worth much more quickly. We have planned on updating the software in just a few branches them a much broader solution to stop fraud attacks. The second regional bank with the 2,700 locations and a 30-day proof of concept had wanted to begin their pilot in April, but it will be delayed until the middle of May. A couple of reminders on renewal. We renewed the 2,700 location retailer to a new 2-year effective February 1 with a 20% price increase each year. And remember, financial services company #3 renewed for a guaranteed increase in volume of 20% and a price increase that was effective January 1 of this year. Also during the quarter, the omnichannel multi biometric platform for banks, marketplaces and health care systems, reselling our core ID validation products more than doubled their commitment to us.

Given current transaction volumes, it appears they will burn through that prepaid bucket well before year-end. There are a few other new wins that also demonstrate the growing diversity of the client base. In the financial services space, we signed a financial services provider headquartered in the Northwest with branches in 5 states and 1 Canadian province. This company offers payday loans, installment loans, prepaid debit cards and money orders, amongst other financial services. They will be using our direct product to initially validate people applying to open an account online with the intent to bring us in store at a later date. In the automotive space, we signed a customer experience, which is really so much of car buying today. They are working with a very large automotive manufacturer with 2,700 dealerships and have incorporated Intellicheck into their system to check IDs, both in-person and online.

They started a pilot with 11 stores and have already caught fake licenses as we knew they would. So they are very excited about the success so far. We continue to sign with big concessions companies for the hospitality space at sports and concert venues. We just added another construction company serving a big temp school in the Midwest with over 75,000 feet in its football stadium alone. Our speed and accuracy were the big winners here. The last thing they wanted were long lines for the concession stand or kids being served, who are underage. As I said earlier, we signed up over a dozen new title companies. This is in addition to over 20 bars and restaurant groups, or cannabis dispensaries multiple tobacco and vape sellers, multiple auto dealerships and 2 small auto rental companies.

Also of note on the last call, I spoke about our completion rates. That is the percentage of time we can render decision on the license. It continued in Q1 at the exceptionally high rate of 99.25% of the time. This is important because it underscores our ability to deliver results over 99% of the time. These are standout numbers that we believe distinguishes our technology solutions from competitors. I believe the word is getting out that we are different and we are clearly better. Our speed, accuracy, the benefit of no need for new hardware or no need for human intervention are all major differentiators that people are beginning to notice. As the sales show, we can close the larger long-cycle financial institutions while, at the same time, closing the smaller and midsized deals, increasing SaaS revenue each month.

We continue to penetrate new markets. And given the amount of clients we are signing, who are either only in the digital market or choosing to start there and then move in-store substantiates that we are not just the brick-and-mortar services provider. I said this last call and it’s nothing about it has changed since then. It’s an irrefutable fact is that the identity theft and identity fraud continue to spiral. As bad actors continue to expand their efforts at every turn, there is no question that what we do is becoming increasingly more necessary. At the same time, we recognize our customers and prospects want to realize 2 key value-adds. They want to improve their process and make it easier for them to gain new clients. At the same time, they are making sure they are not the victim of fraud or doing business with people that they shouldn’t.

We believe, and my sense is that our clients would agree, that nobody does that better than Intellicheck, both in person and digitally. With that, I will turn it over to Jeff for some details on the financials.

Jeffrey Ishmael: Thank you, Bryan. I’m pleased with the continued progress that we have been making since I joined Intellicheck a year ago. Our first quarter SaaS revenue saw growth across our top accounts versus the prior year, continuing to report a higher average price per scan versus the prior year, and we continued the diversification of our business while decreasing the revenue concentration among our top accounts. As Bryan mentioned earlier, we’re pleased to see the continued trailing 12-month growth progression in SaaS revenues each month, which has been achieved consecutively for the last 39 months. As we have discussed previously, to drive sales, we are shifting our expense focus to have a greater emphasis on SG&A, specifically our investment in sales and marketing.

We are also maintaining our focus on our operating expenses to ensure that we achieve the expected return on our investments in this area. . We believe that these efforts will drive increases in our effective price per scan, which, for the last 2 quarters, has increased on a year-over-year basis. This is especially encouraging as it speaks to the testament of value realized by our customers. We also have a focus on ensuring that renewals across the entire customer landscape are including annualized CPI increases or that we continue the rightsizing of legacy customers that are entering renewal periods. Turning now to our first quarter results. Revenue for the first quarter of 2023 increased 25% to a record $4.254 million, compared to $3.395 million in the same period of 2022.

Our SaaS revenue for the first quarter of 2023 grew 26% to $4.228 million from $3.353 million during the same period of 2022. Gross profit as a percentage of revenues was 92.2% for the first quarter of 2023, compared to 90.7% for the same period of 2022. The increase was driven by a higher concentration of SaaS revenues, a nominal decrease in hardware revenue as well as an improved cloud cost structure. Operating expenses, which consist of selling, general and administrative, marketing and research and development expenses increased $685,000 or 15% from $5.232 million for the first quarter of 2023, compared to $4.547 million for the same period of 2022. This increase was primarily driven by higher general and administrative costs, specifically head count-related expenses, as well as higher accounting and professional fees in part related to the prior restatement.

Included within operating expenses for the first quarter of 2023 and 2022 were $682,000 and $592,000, respectively, of noncash equity compensation expense. It’s worth noting that the current quarter noncash equity compensation figure was negatively impacted by a mark-to-market liability adjustment for certain equity awards that was approximately $40,000. With respect to our overall operating expenses, we made additional investments in our systems that we believe are now largely complete, enhanced our internal control processes, including SaaS readiness during the first quarter and incurred additional expenses tied to our full year audit work, which are confined in the first quarter period. We do not anticipate that a continuation of these costs will impact our results going forward.

The company reported a net loss of $1.316 million for the first quarter of 2023, compared to a net loss of $1.468 million for the same period of 2022. The net loss per diluted share for the first quarter of 2023 was $0.07, compared to the net loss per diluted share of $0.08 for the same period of 2022. The weighted average diluted common shares were 19.1 million for the first quarter of 2023, compared to 18.7 million for the same period of 2022. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of 2023 improved by $251,000 or 31%, resulting in a loss of $556,000, compared to a loss of $807,000 for the same period of 2022. Turning to the company’s liquidity and capital resources. As of March 31, 2023, the company had cash and short-term investments in the form of U.S. treasuries that totaled $10.2 million that is currently on deposit at Citibank and Capital One.

Working capital, defined as current assets minus current liabilities of $8.8 million, total assets of $23.6 million and stockholders’ equity of $17.8 million. The company has a $2 million revolving credit facility with Citibank that was secured by collateral accounts. There are no amounts outstanding under this facility, and the facility was not utilized during the quarter. As of March 31, 2023, we had net operating loss carryforwards of approximately $20.3 million. Our first quarter continued to maintain a focus on improving our operational effectiveness and ensuring that we have the proper foundation in place to concentrate on revenue and the path towards being EBITDA positive while continuing to invest in the business. We also continue to build out revenue and performance reporting to closely monitor the transactional health of our key customers and the key industries that we’re targeting and serving.

The focus will continue to be on driving revenue productivity across our key customers and ensuring that our sales team has the proper data and support they need. We have further improved our reporting capabilities to effectively track our entire quote-to-cash process from the initial recording of the marketing qualified lead through qualification by the sales department to a final closed one stage and tracking the effectiveness of our increased marketing investment. We intend to continue improving our performance in this area and ensure investments are yielding the expected results. As we continue to improve our corporate performance, we anticipate that we will see growth in our trailing 12-month revenues, growth in our price per transaction, improvement of our SQL and CAT costs and that we will shorten the ROI window for the smaller accounts that we are onboarding.

We’ve made a very material shift in our spend towards sales and marketing and need to ensure that we realize the expected return. We look forward to sharing our Q2 ’23 results in August. And I’ll now turn the call over to the operator to take your questions.

Q&A Session

Operator: . Our first question is coming from Scott Buck from H.C. Wainwright.

Scott Buck: First one, Bryan, when we think about the legacy business in the store branded card space, there’s a small handful of players that make up the vast majority of that business. When we expand outside of that — some of the new verticals, are we just talking about hitting singles and doubles? Or are there some real move-the-needle type potential customers out there?

Bryan Lewis: Outside the credit card space, Scott, is that what you’re asking?

Scott Buck: Yes, yes.

Bryan Lewis: Yes, I’d say there’s — I do think that there are some pretty big wins out there. It’s one of the reasons that I’m focusing on resellers, because there are some 800-pound that control some of the different markets that you look at. And by partnering with them, where we know that identity validation is needed, makes a lot of sense, because it makes their product better. Our products is what their clients need. They want to sell it. I look at that as a way to get to certain markets. I mentioned automotive before. I think it’s a way to get into title. There are a bunch of places where I do believe the right partner becomes a very big .

Scott Buck: Great. That’s helpful. And then I wanted to ask, the progress you’re making in some of those new verticals, how much credit do you give to the changes in the sales staff you made in 2022? And I’m just kind of curious how those guys are all coming along?

Bryan Lewis: I think, certainly, they’ve got us into some of these spaces. They’ve got us into the companies that are promoting us, if you remember from the last call, the Tennessee title that sent out that letter to 500 title companies. Yes. So they’re definitely making inroads. I think we’re seeing it certainly — and as I pointed out, the small, midsized deals, which kind of keeps the money growing, while at the same time, there are the long-term deals of the big banks that can just always come with a lot of hair to get in there. But I’m pleased with, overall, the way the sales force is doing. Chris is a perfectionist and is always looking for better and more. But so far, so good.

Scott Buck: Great. And then last one for me. I’m just curious if you’re seeing any change in sales cycles, I guess, outside of banking because of the obvious issues in that space?

Bryan Lewis: Outside of banking, no. I mean, those sales cycles are pretty good, again, especially when you’re talking, what I’d say, midsized deals. Generally, you’re not going through the same type of InfoSec scrutiny. So it’s a lot easier to do. And also some of those sales that are pretty profitable for us and has fairly high volume make use of our no-integration products. So it means we can get them up and running immediately. So I think a combination of new markets that realize they have a need that they didn’t know before, like title, we realize I got to get something in very quick, because one mistake is very painful. You put on top of that the fact that we’ve got tools to get them up and running. We can get them up same day, I think, really helps speed that cycle up.

Scott Buck: Congrats on the results.

Bryan Lewis: Thanks, Scott.

Operator: Your next question is coming from Rudy Kessinger from D.A. Davidson.

Unidentified Analyst: This is on for Rudy. Congrats on the good results as well. First question is just from Q4 to Q1, this looks to be the lowest sequential decline in the last 4 years and tax growth accelerated 20% year-over-year last quarter versus 26% year-over-year this year — or next quarter. So that’s all very nice to see. Just curious what the primary growth driver was, whether it’s new business that you brought on in the quarter? Or was it higher-than-expected usage with existing customers in Q1.

Bryan Lewis: A lot of it had to do with new business, I’d say, sort of a combination of things, because I consider the kind of new business when a reseller is bringing on new clients, which we know was going on, certainly with that multichannel partner that we have. And they’re in verticals that we traditionally have not been in. It is also a combination of we continue to have pricing power. It has increased pricing. So we know that retailer we spoke about on the call as well as financial services #3 had price increases. And there’s also a significant amount of growth in those small and medium-sized deals, all those bars and restaurants and other things that I spoke about. While they’re — individually, they’re not that big when you start adding them every month, they really compound on each other. So it’s a combination of all 3, and I think we’ll continue to see that. And as the sales team matures, I think we’ll see even more to new business.

Unidentified Analyst: Got it. And then I guess on that point, adds to the sales reps are ramping, I guess, when should we expect them to be fully productive? And what are your sales hiring plans for the rest of the year?

Bryan Lewis: I will say that finding a great salesperson is like finding a bag of gold, and I will pick it up immediately. And so we’re always looking for opportunistic hiring. So if we find the people, we’re going to hire the people. I know that Chris is always interviewing. It’s just part of what he does to make sure that we have the right people. I think that certainly, we’ve got some salespeople that are much farther along the curve than others. So it’s something that we’re always looking at. And I think it also depends on what verticals we’ve been chasing after. So we’re always making sure that they’re selling to their strengths. So in a way, hard to always say when and where every single person is going to hit their full stride.

But what I’m happy to see is that we’ve got a lot of them who are really showing a lot of — they’re getting us into meetings and accounts, and that’s all that we really need. If they can get those first meetings, we can get things moving. And we’re getting to the point now where I’m seeing the first meetings and the new prospects coming in the door and they all look very good.

Unidentified Analyst: Got it. Yes, that all makes sense. And then last one for me, just in terms of your broader hiring plans for the company as a whole, what would you say your expectations are for the rest of the year? And I guess how should we think about OpEx and EBITDA for the next year as well?

Bryan Lewis: Yes. Jeff, do you want to take all the OpEx EBITDA?

Jeffrey Ishmael: Yes, I can definitely hit that. So as we start thinking about coming out of Q1 and going into the Q2 through Q4, we had a fair amount of expenses. As I mentioned, that was confined into the Q1 period. And as Bryan talked about, we’re coming — we’re striving for that EBITDA breakeven for the rest of the year. So again, with respect to the — one second, I’m sorry. So with respect to the EBITDA breakeven, that’s not an unreasonable assumption going into the end of the year. And then what was the second part of that question? I’m sorry, I’m just on some cold medication right now.

Unidentified Analyst: No worries. Yes, it was just on total hiring outside of just S&M.

Bryan Lewis: Yes. We don’t — it is really no reason to hire anything outside of sales and marketing at this point in time.

Jeffrey Ishmael: On the head count, one of the things that I took a look at relative to our head count is that we stayed pretty static over the last couple of years, 50 to 53 employees. And as Bryan said, we’re going to continue to add employees opportunistically. But we’re also keeping a pretty keen eye on the revenue per employee metric to ensure that we continue to see growth in that. And I did some further research on technology services publicly held companies in that 0 to $100 million revenue range. And there was about 65 companies, and we were in the upper quartile with that metric. And that was in an industry peer group where — midpoint was 135 and top down as high as 1,200. So as Bryan mentioned, and I concur, we feel pretty good that we’re rightsized from an account perspective, but we’re going to continue to watch it and make sure that we continue to see upward growth in that revenue per employee metric.

Operator: Next question is coming from Mike Grondahl from Northland Securities.

Lucas Horton: This is Luke on for Mike. Just wanted to start on the business intelligence, any sort of strategy or pricing to call out there? Or how this will be rolled out or that will be marketed to existing clients as an additional add-on? Or just any sort of color around that would be great.

Bryan Lewis: Yes, that’s the intention for it. We’ve got all the data. I just want to make sure that we’ve got it in ways that makes it easy for clients to digest. We’ve got a tool that they can use to build their own. That always can get difficult for people. And we’re trying to figure out how do we get it set up right. Certainly, large companies, different data needs than smaller companies or bars and restaurants. So I’d say that there is certainly a lot in need for data. Certainly, our clients are also saying that we want to see how we can work together to, in a way, combine our data to make — because since we see everything and they all see what they see, is there a better way that we can build tools, by working together.

So those are all the things that we’re looking at. We think there’s a lot of value in the data. We’re just working with our clients now to figure out what’s the best way to monetize it to give them what they need, provide the privacy and protection that also the public needs while, at the same time, again, building a tool that we think will help from.

Lucas Horton: Got it. That makes sense. And then just quick to clarify on the SG&A, which looks like it was up quite a bit. Were you guys saying this was kind of a one-off thing with cost concentrated in Q1 here? Or is this a new kind of run rate we should expect going forward? How do you see that playing out throughout the year?

Jeffrey Ishmael: No. There was a fair amount of noise inside of the first quarter. As I took a look at Q1 of last year, we had some nonrecurring reductions and a few accruals of roughly $0.25 million, $235,000 that were not coming into play this year. So we have that as a bit of a hurdle. And as I mentioned, some accounting and professional fees were higher in the quarter, which partly a little bit of hangover from restatement, but then also still continuing to bolster our accounting foundation. As it related to systems, some outside analysis related to goodwill valuations, tax provisions, also work on the proxy, but a lot of that was combined to just within Q1. So it will be nonreoccurring. We’re going to see a dip in that going into Q2, and then that will slowly ramp into the rest of the year as we continue to increase revenues.

We start to see salespeople get into accelerators on commissions, what have you. As far as we’d expect, though, we’re going to see that drop Q2 and gradually went through Q4.

Operator: Your next question is coming from Jeff Van Rhee from Craig-Hallum.

Daniel Hibshman: This is Daniel on for Jeff. Just wondering, in terms of the smaller customers in terms of the restaurants and the title companies and starting to bring on a greater number, talk about how the right partner can be a whale? When we’re talking about these customer adds, is this individual customers that are being hunted out? Or is this a bunch of customers being acquired to, say, 1 or 2 key partners? Just sort of how does that customer count work? And then in terms of just the maturity of systems and processes, I know it’s a little bit of a different motion, bringing on a bunch of smaller customers versus a few larger ones. Just where would you say you are in terms of being ready for adding the larger numbers of these smaller customers and running them through the onboarding process?

Bryan Lewis: Right. So I’ll answer those in order. So the way that it would work with some of these large resellers or clients who — our clients, who will be reselling our product, we bring them on board. They manage everything else. And they’re the ones in each one of these verticals that tend to be 1 or 2 companies that provide the software that’s the backbone for that industry. They’re giving you — and you buy them from them all the tools that you need to run your business, have your compliance, whatever it is. And then we get incorporated into that process flow, and then that reseller manage it. We don’t have to provision those clients. We don’t have to turn them on. That’s all handled by them. So for — in that case, what I like about it, one connection, and they handle it all.

Now in terms of bringing on these other little small guys, I’d say that’s a lot of what we have been building towards in the past years, changing some of our internal systems, bringing on NetSuite, bringing in sales force and getting it live, so that it pretty much is automatic. The salesperson gets a prospect, puts it in sales force. It’s going great. They end up — they create the work order or the order form out of it, send it out, automatically signed, comes back, goes to NetSuite and finance. They say, “Great, we got paid,” and it kicks off the provisioning. So a lot of work has gone into making it so that we can easily handle bringing on a ton of small clients. Most of that, those small clients, are coming to us. I don’t want to have to go knock on every bar and restaurant, every title company.

And that’s why we found partners in those areas, like I said, if you have lots of clients, who see the value of what we do and they’re happy to sell it, because they’re marking up our product and making money on it.

Daniel Hibshman: And then just jumping back to the banking and lending. I believe that was volumes up 40%, could you just run through again what was included in the banking and lending category specifically? Does that include a lot of the major number of financial services customers? Or where do they fall?

Bryan Lewis: So it includes those financial services customers. It’s buy now, pay later. It’s — a lot of it has been expanded use cases with the existing clients as well as bringing on new other lenders, several in the buy now, pay later space. And again, a lot of it comes from our — once we get a financial services company in, we generally get brought in for one use case. They see how well we’re stopping bad things happening for that use case and then figure out where else can they put us in that organization.

Operator: We reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the floor back over to Bryan for any further or closing comments.

Bryan Lewis: Thanks, operator. As you bring this call to close, I just want to leave you with and sort of reiterate some key takeaways, right? First of all, fraud isn’t going away, right? Our diversification has been and will continue to be an important step in our growth strategy, because we are discovering that more and more places need to know that you are, who you say you are. We’re seeing the results from our market expansion in other verticals, such as automotive, as we saw the volumes there doubled year-over-year. Our resellers are paying off. Revenues from them are up 92%. Renewals continue to happen. I spoke on the last call that we don’t really lose clients. They mostly go out of business. Some of our top clients renewed to 3-year and 2-year agreements, both with commitments to higher volume and higher prices.

We continue to sign new business across verticals, financial services, automotive, you name it. We are getting more and more traction. And I want to thank the sales team for helping us — with us to make that happen. So in closing, as I said in the press release, an increasing number of companies in a growing range of verticals are recognizing the benefit of using Intellicheck for both in-person and digital. And I want to stress that digital, because a lot of times people think again we’re only brick-and-mortar. But as you saw, we’ve got many clients coming in purely to the digital space. Our product is agile. We’re easy to deploy, easy to use. We deliver better experiences for clients and their clients, because they don’t need as many steps in the process because we are so accurate, right?

We make decisioning easier. We’ve got completion rates that I think are the best in the industry. We can tell you yes or no more than any one of our competitors. And I see many more good things to come. We look forward to talking to you all about Q2 ’23 in August, and I want to thank you for joining us today.

Operator: Thank you. That does conclude today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.