Compass, Inc. (NYSE:COMP) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Compass, Inc. (NYSE:COMP) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript November 7, 2023

Operator: Thank you for standing by. And welcome to the Compass Inc. Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. I would now like to welcome Richard Simonelli, Vice President, Investor Relations to begin the call. Richard, over to you.

Richard Simonelli: Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, and thank you for joining the Compass third quarter 2023 earnings call today. Joining us today will be Robert Reffkin, our Founder and Chief Executive Officer; and Greg Hart, our Chief Operating Officer; and Kalani Reelitz, our Chief Financial Officer. In discussing our company’s performance, we will refer to some non-GAAP measures. You can find the reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our third quarter 2023 earnings release posted on our Investor Relations website. We will make forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations, forecasts and assumptions and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include our guidance for the fourth quarter and full year 2023 and comments related to our operating expenses and cash flow levels, as well as our expectations for operational achievements.

Our actual results may differ materially from these statements. You can find more information about risks, uncertainties and other factors that could affect our results on our most recent annual report on Form 10-K and also our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC and available on our Investor Relations website. You should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. All information in this presentation today is as of today’s date November 6, 2023. We expressly disclaim any obligation to update this information. I will now turn the call over to Robert Reffkin. Robert?

Robert Reffkin: Thank you, Rich, and thank you everyone for joining us today for our third quarter results conference call. We achieved strong financial results in line with our guidance in a quarter that has seen mortgage rates increase over 100 basis points to 8%. I am pleased to share that in the third quarter, we grew quarterly market share 26, basis points year-over-year. We grew principal agents by 4% year-over-year and 3% sequentially. We had above 98% principal agents retention for the quarter, which is the second highest agent retention level since we went public. We launched several new exciting features on our technology platform that improved agent productivity and led to retention and recruitment. We moved closer to achieving our goal of bringing our operating expenses down to a run rate of $900 million in the fourth quarter.

And in the midst of a rapidly deteriorating market, we delivered positive free cash flow for the second quarter in a row. Kalani and Greg will walk you through the details later on this call. But I want to focus on the bigger picture. This downturn has given us opportunity to analyze every aspect of our business. And look for efficiencies to ensure that everything we are doing is dedicated towards delivering profitable top-line growth. We approach every day of accessibly looking for ways to smartly lower costs and increase the productivity and revenue of our agents. We have worked hard to position Compass to be able to ride out this period of macroeconomic uncertainty and position Compass for even greater success when the market recovery begins.

We are working from a position of strength. As the number one, brokerage by sales volume in the United States over the past two years, we have built an amazing business with the best agents serviced by a highly dedicated team of professionals at Compass that is laser-focused on delivering excellence at every level. Although the market has not improved over the past year, Compass is a much stronger company with a lower cost base, higher principal agent retention, a revitalized post-pandemic culture, enhanced technology platform in a larger agent to agent client referral network. I am proud of the fact that our team has thoughtfully and skillfully been able to reduce OpEx run rates by approximately $550 million since the second quarter of 2022.

We said we would do it and we did it. We expect to achieve our target $900 million OpEx run rate as we exit Q4 as planned. This is more than a $0.5 billion of expense cutting while still growing the number of agents, improving agent retention, and adding important new features to our technology platform. Our technology is clearly making a difference for agents. We have included a slide in our investor deck with quotes from agents who left campus and came back and cited technology as the reason. With their permission, we have also included their phone numbers, so you can call them directly. The reason we believe these agents’ opinions are so important is that they are doing a direct comparison of the current state of technology in the industry and as you will see Compass is the clear winner by far.

Here are a few examples. First quote, we missed the Compass technology. I’ve tried to make it work, but life is so much harder now. So much less efficient and my cost of doing business have increased. Property searching with clients without collections felt like going back in time five years. Next quote. Collections allows me to work with 3-5x the amount of buyers at any given point in time that I otherwise would not have the bandwidth to take on. Last quote. You never realize how valuable the Compass platform is until you don’t have it anymore. This is such a huge advantage to being at Compass. While I had indicated on prior calls, that we would hold our OpEx at $900 million in 2024 and 2025 given that 2024 could look a lot like 2023. We believe we should continue to drive more efficiencies in the business and are targeting $850 million in 2024, annualized non-GAAP operating expenses The bottom of our previously stated range of $850 million, to $950 million.

By continuing our expense reduction program, we are building in the potential for more free cash flow in 2024. But with the uncertainties surrounding ’24, and if marketing conditions get worse, we are getting out ahead of a continued downturn. I am happy to report that other firms are recognizing Compass’ leadership and strength. In the last two months, we have seen an increase in inbound inquiries of brokers looking to join Compass with our strong culture, technology platform, and agent-to-agents client referral network being leading reasons. We are looking to make the accretive transactions that will help us position for the inevitable market improvement that will come in the future. When you add companies and revenue, you are adding operating expenses, as well.

You’re not going to pass up on accretive acquisitions just to beat the OpEx number. We acquired Realty Austin and DPP in September marquee brokerages in their respective markets because those acquisitions were the right thing to do for the business as they further strengthen our position, in Texas, and California. Quote M&A activity adds approximately $14 million of annual OpEx in 2024. Clearly, the Compass value proposition growth of key competitors is strengthening. Agents are coming to and seeing at Compass during an unprecedented period of industry uncertainty. In Q3, we grew our average principal agent count by more than 400 agents versus the prior quarter. We also experienced – we are experiencing over 98% principal agent retention in the third quarter, our second highest retention level since we went public.

This proves that our cost reductions are not compromising the agents’ experience. At the same time, we have been able to deliver a number of technology advances such as performance tracker, Compass AI and One-Click Title and Escrow. So we’re actually seeing their technology mode while the vast majority of our competitors continue to not invest. I would like to take a moment to address the Sitzer/Burnett class-action lawsuit verdict against NAR and several brokerages. As you know Compass was not named in that lawsuit, but we were named in a new lawsuit last week that was filed by the same lawyers who represented the Sitzer/Burnett, as well as a second case in Illinois, which is a copy of the case already filed against NAR and other brokerages sometime ago.

Obviously, we have been closely watching the proceedings as we do with all things related to the residential real estate industry. We will respond in according to the complaints filed against us. I am not going to comment on the cases in this call or future calls. While there has been an enormous amount of speculation as to what this will mean for commissions, there are a few reasons why I felt confidence that Compass is positioned well, First, there is a market precedence for the changes being proposed in these lawsuits, as it relates to how commissions are displayed and shared with consumers and ultimately commission rates. The Northwest MLS, which covers all of Seattle in the majority of the State of Washington, including 83% of the population made these changes in October 2019.

And as of the end of 2022 the average Washington Realtor Commission rate is 5.3% with 2.67% going to the list agents and the remaining 2.63% going to the buyers’ agents. That aligns with the national average. So we have evidence in a major US market of what this change will look like that gives us confidence. Secondly, we believe we are positioned well, because we have a combination of some of the most productive agents in the only end-to-end technology platform in our industry. Our agents are able to use the Compass technology platform with their clients and deliver tangible value to clients through it, which will be a major advantage should things shift. For example, our collections product is a tool that makes the home buying experience easier for the buyer.

It is like a Pinterest board for real estate that provides buyers with a portfolio of properties that are automatically updated with new prices and statuses where it’s easy to share and communicate. When we launched our client portal in 2024, which will be a consumer interface for clients to manage their entire buying and selling products online through their agents. The bond between agents and buyer will be straightened further as we provide the clients one location to access everything related to their purchase. Given these products are unique to Compass, we are well positioned relative to others. Thirdly, we currently have agents that successfully answered buyers to sign buyer broker agreements in order to work with them. We’re in the process of launching training to all of our agents to empower them to successfully get buyer broker agreements signed with their buyers.

Lastly, we operate largely in the luxury segments everything buyers will still want to help. We also want to help of an advisor through their home buying journey. Overall, these are some of the reasons why we believe we are well positioned and prepared for any of these industry changes. So looking ahead to the future. We will continue to take a disciplined approach to our operating expenses and run our business efficiently, while still investing in our agents, platform and growth. We are confident that this approach ensures we can build upon our competitive advantage with the only proprietary end-to-end technology platform for agents in the industry. When the market improves in the future, we believe the company will be well positioned to generate substantial free cash flow over the long term.

I remain incredibly excited about the future, and I want to end by thanking the entire Compass team of employees and agents. Their incredible dedication has allowed us to make it through these difficult times with the confidence that we have a strong foundation for future success. I’ll now turn it over to Greg.

Greg Hart: Thank you, Robert. I echo your sentiment about the great team at Compass and want to also recognize our amazing agents who are working hard every day in a very difficult market to help their clients buy and sell homes. In the third quarter, we processed over 48,000 transactions a decline of 12% from a year ago, which compares favorably to the 20% decline in transactions for the entire residential real estate market in the third quarter, as reported by the National Association of Realtors. Our market share for Q3 2023 was 4.4%, up 26 basis points of year-over-year versus Q3 2022. The majority of agents tell us that Compass platform is the number one reason for coming to Compass and that contributed to another strong quarter of agent additions.

For Q3 2023, our average number of principal agents increased to 14,055 principal agents, up 4% year-over-year and up 3% quarter-over-quarter. Our technology platform, brand and agent network also contribute to our strong agent retention as agents continue to stay at Compass at very high rates. For Q3, we saw over 90% annualized retention of principal agents and as Robert mentioned, Q3 was our second highest quarterly retention rate of principal agents as a public company. And of the principal agents who did leave Compass in Q3, more than 80% of that attrition came from agents who are least productive in terms of both transaction count and gross transaction volume. And some agents have decided to leave the industry entirely during this prolonged market downturn.

In addition to our agent recruiting efforts, we completed two strategic acquisitions during the third quarter of brokerages in Texas and in California. Realty Austin, the number one independent brokerage in Texas, expands our presence in Austin, and San Antonio, nearly doubling our agent and transaction count in those markets, while DPP as a well-respected brokerage with a specific architectural focus that complements Compass well. Going forward, we will continue to be opportunistic in our approach to adding to our agent base via selective M&A for pursuing deal structures that allow us to minimize upfront cash and limit equity dilution. We are proud of the fact that the majority of the agents coming to Compass tell us that one of the primary reasons they are doing so is for the platform.

We continue to invest to make this platform better, and to launch new products into our platforms, such as performance tracker, Compass AI, and one-click title and escrow. Each of these products are generating rave reviews from agents and positive early adoption. Looking forward, we will continue to build more sophisticated team workflow functionality, and also plan to launch the first phase of our Compass client dashboard in 2024. We envision this as the single destination for both buyers and sellers for everything home before during and after the transaction. Our title and escrow business is generating positive adjusted EBITDA and increasing attach rates after our successful launch of title and escrow integration in the Compass platform in Southern California.

We are now rolling this feature out in Philadelphia, Southern New Jersey, and the Washington DC area, including Maryland and Virginia as planned. As you know, we’ve been leveraging artificial intelligence across our platforms since 2020. Always for the expressed purpose of enhancing our agents’ workflow efficiency, and client service. We’ve done this through features like our likely to sell recommendations, search suggestions, similar homes, our CMA generation tool and in our video studio. Recently, we’ve further enhanced that offering by integrating the ChatGPT API into Compass AI, which has already proved to be a game changer for our agents. For those of you who have used AI, you know this technology has seemingly unlimited potential. But it is only as good as the data and you want to context from which it draws.

Compass As is custom built to support real estate agents and over time will be supercharged by a vast amount of proprietary Compass data drawn from our hundreds of thousands of transactions, which is a major competitive advantages over other brokerages. Right now, Compass AI is already augmented with smart, real estate-specific system prompts, as well as contacts taking directly from her proprietary platform data set. And in the future, Compass AI is poised to become a personalized solution trained to a proprietary data and customizable by our agent users. This is a significant advantage for Compass agents compared to agents at other brokerages who typically use general purpose solutions or otherwise search public databases for best practices.

We can create natural integration points for Compass AI directly into our agents’ platform workflows, rather than just as a standalone isolated tool. The more agents use our platform, the stronger the machine learning algorithms will be delivering better results for agents and producing a virtuous cycle. The agent response has been fantastic as thousands of agents have already integrated Compass AI into their workflow and our coaching classes featuring Compass AI typically has thousands of agents in attendance. I can’t wait to share the next round of improvements. This has been a challenging market for almost a year and a half. It has gone on longer than expected and immediate relief is not insight. In response,wWe’ve removed roughly $550 million in operating expenses from our business in the last 18 months.

And as Robert mentioned, we are continuing to drive our expenses downward. I’m working with an exceptionally strong team dedicated to looking for operating efficiencies in every corner of the business. Our leaders are united in their focus on finding ways to improve our processes and lower our costs. Our agents and our employees continue to demonstrate that they’re the best in the industry, which is why Compass is the number one brokerage in the country. I will now turn it over to our CFO Kalani Reelitz. Thanks, Greg. Today I’ll review our third quarter financial results in more detail and then I’ll provide an update on our guidance expectations for the fourth quarter. As a reoccurring theme we’ve been sharing with you over the past year, we continue to focus on controlling what we can control namely, our cause base and our ability to attract and retain the best agents.

The result of these efforts has allowed us to report another quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA and positive free cash flows despite this extremely challenging market. In particular our Q3 results reflected the fifth quarter in a row that we reduced our operating expenses over the prior quarter. Our third quarter revenue was $1.34 billion, falling slightly below the midpoint of our guidance range of $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion reflecting pressure from mortgage rates that have continued to rise since the time we put out our Q3 guidance back in August. Our Q3 revenue reflects a decline of 10% from the year ago period of $1.49 billion. Gross transaction volume was $50.9 billion in the third quarter, a decline of 11% from a year ago, reflecting a 12% reduction in total transaction, partly offset by an increase in average selling price.

The decline in our transactions of 12% from a year ago period compares favorably to the decline in transactions in the overall market of 20%. Our non-GAAP commission expense as a percent of revenue was 81.97%, an increase of 50 basis points from Q3 of last year, when excluding the impact of the agent equity program on the year ago period. As a reminder, 2022 is the last year we offered the agent equity program, which allowed our agents to exchange a portion of their cash commissions to our equity. Page 15 of the Q3 Investor deck includes additional details on the agent equity programs impact on the commission line in the prior year periods. You will continue to see this differential through each quarter in 2023, so we anniversary the sunset of the agent program in Q1 of 2024.

Our total non-GAAP operating expenses excluding commissions and other related expenses were $219 million for the third quarter. Our operating expense in the quarter benefited by a one-time credit of $7.2 million related to a favorable change in the way we provisioned for certain state franchise taxes, resulting in a tax refund for taxes paid in prior years. Adjusting for this one-time credit, our operating expense in the quarter would have been $226 million or $904 million on an annualized basis. As we talked about previously, many of our non-commission-based operating expenses are somewhat fixed in nature and have historically increased sequentially from quarter to quarter as opposed to varying in line with revenue. However, due to our cost reduction initiatives implemented over the past year, the $226 million of OpEx for the third quarter reflects a $140 million reduction from OpEx of $366 million in the second quarter of last year, which was the quarter we began our cost reduction initiatives.

On an annualized basis, this reflects a reduction of over $550 million. Our management team remains disciplined focused on our operating expenses and as Robert and Greg mentioned, we are focused on maintaining our operating discipline that allows us to sustain our new cost base. As a reference point, the non-GAAP operating expenses we refer to included the expense category of the sales and marketing, operation, and support, research and development, and G&A and excludes stock-based compensation expenses, other expenses that are excluded from adjusted EBITDA. We’ve included tables on pages 13 and 14 on our Q3 investor deck that reconciles these amounts. Our adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter was $21.8 million, slightly below the midpoint of our guidance range reflecting the challenging market conditions, Our GAAP net loss for the third quarter was $39 million, compared to a loss of $154 million in the same period a year ago.

Included in the GAAP net loss for the quarter are non-cash charges, which included $38 million of non-cash stock-based compensation expense and $21 million of depreciation and amortization expenses. Free cash flow during the third quarter was a positive $12.2 million, which compares favorably to negative $69.1 million of free-cash flow in the year ago quarter, driven primarily by the improvement in adjusted EBITDA, lower capital expenditures, and other favorable changes in working capital. In particular, capital expenditures were just $2.8 million in the current quarter, compared to $15.5 million a year ago, driven by our cost-cutting measures and the intentional slowing of expansion into new markets and new offices. We have meaningfully improved our free cash flow position, compared to last year when comparing the first nine months of 2023, to the same period of 2022, our free cash flow improved by $235 million or $1.1 billion less revenue.

While cash flow can be impacted by the timing of cash collections from transaction closing and the payment of cash to our agents and vendors, and the timing of our payroll cycles in relation to the calendar quarter end, the magnitude of improvement in free cash flow is directly attributed to the impact of our cost discipline over the past year. We have $220 million of cash and cash equivalents on our balance sheet at the end of September, which reflects the previously disclosed payback of $150 million of our revolver drawn in July. Also during the quarter, we completed the acquisition of certain assets of a Canadian real estate prospect entity called Properly, which we’ve accounted for the financing transaction whereby we received cash of $32 million in exchange for nine million shares of $compass stock for an effective issuance price of $3.62 per share.

We thought this transaction was an effective way to add strength to our balance sheet during the challenging macroeconomic environments ahead of us. We have access to liquidity of over $500 million to the cash on our balance sheet and the capacity on our revolving credit facility. And therefore, we believe we are well positioned to react to continued market challenges. Now, turning to our financial guidance. Our results for the first three quarters of 2023 confirmed our operating expense discipline creates meaningful performance improvements and as we look forward to Q4, we continue to see market risks. For Q4 of 2023, we expect revenue in the range of $1.1 billion to $1.2 billion and we are reaffirming our expectation that our OpEx will be in the range of $850 million to $950 million with the Q4 run rate around the midpoint of $900 million excluding the impact of the additional OpEx we expect in Q4 from our two adjusted EBITDA positive brokerage acquisitions completed at the end of September.

The OpEx from those two deals is expected to be just shy of $4 million per quarter. Despite our cost control and discipline given the revenue softness driven by continued market pressure in the second half of ‘23, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of negative $35 million to negative $20 million in the fourth quarter. We anticipate free cash flow to trend in line with adjusted EBITDA and be negative in the fourth quarter, as well, and as a result, while we have made significant improvement in our free cash flow and cash position we do not anticipate being free cash flow positive for the full year 2023. As we’ve discussed in the past the conversion of adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow is seasonally stronger in the earlier quarters of the year and seasonally weaker in the later quarters of the year.

As Robert mentioned, our commitment to cost discipline has driven significant improvement in our free cash flow, compared to the same period last year. It is clear to us that our strong commitment to cost control is working and led directly to our adjusted EBITDA results in Q3, despite declining revenue. We remain committed to our cost discipline to drive favorable results in 2024 and beyond. As I finish my prepared remarks, November marks the end of my first year here at Compass. The market conditions over the last year have truly challenged our agents and our teams. The commitment of our agents and team members to support each other and provide world-class service to our clients has been nothing short of inspiring. We are a significantly stronger company today than when I started a year ago and we are well positioned to create tremendous value for our employees, agents, and shareholders going forward.

Thank you again to our agents and team members for all that you do for Compass. I would now like to turn the call over to the operator to begin Q&A.

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Q&A Session

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Soham Bhonsle with BTIG. Please go ahead.

Soham Bhonsle: Hey guys. Good evening. Thanks for taking our questions. Robert, I guess, first one for you. So I know you’re not commenting on the lawsuits, but just thinking through the potential impact, it still seems pretty unclear to us. But let’s just say hypothetically that buy sell commissions do come under pressure in the future. How does that change, I guess Compass’ is ability to hold – uphold the 80/20 split model longer term, right? Do you think you have to adjust splits higher to maybe entice agents that want to keep more of their commissions going forward? Or do you think you can still make the pitch based on the value that you provide on the MPN platforms? Thanks.

Robert Reffkin: Yeah. First, thanks for asking the question. I mean, a few things. One, I don’t think there’s any evidence to suggest that there will be pressure on the commission. When you look at the State of Washington in addition to what I mentioned earlier the Northwest MLS which covers 82% of the state, in 2019, they discontinued requiring sellers to make a minimum offer of compensation. Since that point in time, 99.7% – 99.75% of sellers in those markets continue to offer compensation to buyer brokers and 95% of the time these fee is exceed 2% to the buying side as quoted by the Wall Street Journal. And so I just think one is that there’s no evidence from any market that it would create pressure on commissions. Also, there are likely thousands of agents in the country that are – that already require to work with the buyer.

They personally decide that they’re going to ask that buyer to sign a buyer broker agreement. And in that buyer book agreement, they will negotiate independently, of course what the commission is that they require. And let’s just say hypothetically, it says two and a half percent. Then what happen if the seller contributes to 2.5% the buyer doesn’t have to do anything. If a seller doesn’t contribute anything to buyers, do 2.5%, but that’s already a practice that exists out there in the world. And so, what I mentioned early on the call is we’re going to train how to do that in a compliant way to our agents across the country. And I think the actual effect of this will be two things. One, it has the potential to further professionalize the industry, because agents that don’t know how to sell their value will leave the business and agents that do know how to sell the value will get the buck that required by broker agreements.

And of course, when that agreement is in there, they’re valued. I think their compensation will be clearly outlined. The second thing that it will do, is they will force Compass and other companies to create a buyer presentation at the same level that we’ve created listing presentations. Arguably, the most important thing a brokerage firm can give an agent is the listing presentation. That’s where you agent goes in to list an appointment is the moment of truth where the agent says, here’s why you want to work with me and here’s why you want to work with the company. Yeah. The all the different reasons on both fronts. And that’s the moment where you either, get the listing or you don’t. That’s where you negotiate when the agent independently negotiates, the commission, and that is considered very valuable for an agent.

Any – almost any agent that’s going to move companies want to see, what would the listing presentation look like before they move. So now we’re going to create – we are launching over the next week, our buyer agreements. So when you need a buyer – so your buyer presentation that walks through all the reasons why you want to work with me as it your buyer agent, but also I want to work with Compass as your buyer brokerage, because we have collections, which is as you saw in the quotes, mostly didn’t say that that’s the reason why they came back to Compass because we have off market listings and coming soons and the largest network of toppings across the country in the major markets and countries. Number one in every and more top markets in the country than anyone else.

And so the reason I bring that up is now Compass is going to and other brokerages are going to create an even stronger reason why you need to be affiliated with the top brokerage firms because we have a buyer presentation that helps you communicate your value in that important moment to buyers just like we have for sellers. So, as we think about, the split that brokerage firms agree on the agents, I think it will just reinforce that value.

Soham Bhonsle: Got it. Thank you. And then second one I guess, Kalani the 850 expense target, I just want to make sure I understand. So first is the 850 now the target for our 2024 and 2025 given that you are looking to stay flat in both those years previously. And then can you just talk about some of these specific actions that will get you to the new runrate? Thanks.

Kalani Reelitz : Yeah. Sure. Thanks a lot. A few things. I think, we definitely are targeting 850 for 2024 and I think as you mentioned consistently, we want to make sure we are working to drive even more efficiency just to maintain that level in 2025. We think there’s just a kind of a tremendous value if we are able to do that. I think as we think about where we’re going, we’re going to contribute – continue to drive operating efficiency. I think, one of the things over the last year and a half is we’ve created a real operating discipline across the company to really drive out efficiency and cost savings. We will continue to look to take advantage of our platform and scale. We’ll continue to focus on low cost labor to drive our cost to service down, we will continue to look at extracting savings from vendors.

And so, we’ll just continue to drive that operating discipline. So we can allow our cost base to flex with both the market, but also just to make sure one of the things we continue to learn, where we can be more efficient and I think not only to react to the market, but also just to allow ourselves to continue to drive more value, more EBITDA, more cash flow. We won’t stop making sure we are servicing our agents with the best service, but also the most efficiently.

Soham Bhonsle: I guess, just a quick follow-up, then move from 900 to 850. Like what’s the Delta? What’s the biggest Delta that’s getting you there?

Kalani Reelitz : Yes. So, a few things. One, I think we continue to look at our operating models. So we continue to look at kind of how we lower the cost per transaction. We do that through just our operating models. Some of the low cost labor continue to think we have tremendous opportunities with vendors, especially now with the market fits. And so, a lot of the same actions we’ve taken will continue to drive, we continue to learn more and more. We’ll continue to push on those.

Soham Bhonsle: All right. Great guys. Thanks a lot.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Bernie McTernan with Needham and Company. Please go ahead.

Bernie McTernan: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe just to start, revenue guidance for 4Q flat to up just given the macro. Can you talk about some of the moving pieces? And then maybe how the brokerage acquisitions impacts revenue growth in the fourth quarter?

Robert Reffkin : Maybe I’ll just give just some high level context on what we see in the market and I let Kalani go into more detail. I think, we have modestly less inventory. So 4% less inventory than we did a year ago and is already recorded in inventory, but it’s not getting worse. So that week-over-week is really following last year now. In terms of price and price is still higher than a year ago. And then it’s recently at all time high and in terms of demand, demand at 8% mortgage rates, definitely slowed down. And I would say, it is almost instead of being more buyers and sellers almost felt like to, for the first time in many, many months, it was as many buy and sells. So it’s almost a balanced market, although a depressed one.

I think it was the mortgage rates going down 70 basis points over the last week. It’s a very, very good thing for Compass and for the market. There’s a lot of evidence out there that consumers respond more to the change in the mortgage rates, more than the absolute number. And so, 8%, at this moment in time is almost a great marketing, is almost great marketing to buyers. Let’s say 7.4% is very attractive. And so, hopefully, things as stay around these levels, but the good news is the fall market is not falling off a cliff. And, we are seeing in contract listing over the recent weeks either at or above the prior weeks at the same levels of the prior weeks – prior year. And we’re all holding tight. I hope that the mortgage rate outlook is reasonable.

So with that, Kalani, maybe a bit more detail on Q4.

Kalani Reelitz : Yeah, the only thing I’d add is, just to remind the equation, right? I think market first, which as Robert said is this slightly down? But obviously lapping Q4 last of year, which was historically low. Added to that, agent adds which, which as you heard Greg mentioned we continue to add agents into the list from there will be additive and then obviously our M&A, we won’t – we haven’t provided formal guidance on the lift there. But those are the three big kind of components to the equation.

Bernie McTernan: Understood. And then, just on the agent adds, just any color in terms of how organic agent adds are tracking versus, the acquired ones from brokerages, I guess asking the same question in a different way if I could?

Robert Reffkin : Yeah, it’s a good question, Bernie. So, agent adds organically in Q3 were actually almost identical to what we did in Q2. And I’d just remind you and everybody on the call about the way that we report. Our average, principal agent count is calculated by taking the end of month average for each month in the quarter and then just dividing by three and so, at the end of month total rather for each month and then dividing by three. And we closed the Realty Austin and DPP deals in September. So those – the impact of those on our average principal agent count is to lead a little bit because it’s really only a third of the actual total principal agents that they have are going to be reflected in Q3. But we had a strong quarter from an agent recruiting perspective in Q3, normally Q2 is our best agent recruiting quarter.

It’s historically been that. But this year, we saw Q3 be almost identical slightly above Q2 on an organic basis. And then, you’ll see in Q4, the full impact of the two acquisitions flow through in the numbers and so we are expecting to see healthy growth in Q4, as well.

Bernie McTernan: Understood. Thank you all.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Mike Ng with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Mike Ng: Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for the question. I just have two. First, I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit about Compass’ GTV market share performance in the context of whether geography contributed to it or the acquisitions? Whether on a year-over-year or quarter-on-quarter basis? And then second, I was just wondering, if you could talk a little bit about Compass’ mix of buy side versus sell side transactions. Is that evenly split on and are there any factors to consider as you think about, things that impact that split whether by market or brokerage size or target customer otherwise? Thank you.

Greg Hart : I’ll speak to – Mike, this is Greg. I’ll speak to the market share. One of the things that we’ve seen for the last three years is that our Q3 market share tends to be sequentially lower than Q2. And so, Q3 was year-over-year little bit down sequentially. We’ve seen that the last three years in a row. We believe that’s primarily just geo mixed across the entire country. The markets the company is in playing a smaller role in overall transactions in Q3 versus the rest of the country than they do in Q2. And so, we believe that’s one of the factors that that’s playing out in our market share in the quarter. In terms of buy side versus sell side, they’re pretty evenly split. I’ll defer to Robert, sort of if he had some thoughts he wanted to share on that?

Robert Reffkin : Yeah, I’m pretty sure that we’re around 55% buy side versus sell side. It has changed over time as the markets change. But that’s the most recent number that I have.

Mike Ng: Great. Thanks, Greg. Thanks, Robert.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Bouley with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Matthew Bouley: Hey. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. I wanted to touch on commission splits. I think even excluding the equity comp adjustments, it looked like they went the splits went 50 basis points or so in favor of the agent this quarter. I’m curious if there’s any anything driving that, any mix in there to be aware of? And if this is the direction of commissions splits that we should assume kind of as we model 2024? Thank you.

Kalani Reelitz : Yeah. Thanks Matt. It’s Kalani. Just a couple of things. I think that when we think of – think about our Q3 margin, you are right. It’s a favorable kind of year-over-year driven mainly by two big buckets. First, Q3 of last year was one of the two best margin percentage quarters in our history. So, we are facing tough prior year comps. I think second, we did see year-over-year margin change primarily due to mix shift both regional mix shift as well as production mix shift. And then also some impact from select number of agent split changes. So, those are the two big kind of in quarter drivers. I think as we think about and go forward, we continue to believe we have opportunity in our commission space. Again, just a reminder, quoting in mix.

So we continue to drive the overall book of our agents through the top 50%. Obviously, the problem side of that has better economics. We continue to think that we can drive also incentives as they come off. If you think about the last three or four years as we’ve recruited, I think we stopped about a year ago with incentives and so those burn off and improve. And then obviously, if you think about total, I think we have some more opportunity on the adjacent services. So I think this quarter has propping and some mix more than anything, but it shouldn’t be indicative of future modeling.

Robert Reffkin: Yeah, I just want to double down that point that this is not be indicative of the future. This is always an area of focus. But the bigger areas of focus over the last year was bringing our expenses down in a number of ways and we are very focused on this to ensure that it’s not a trend that we see in the future.

Matthew Bouley: Got it. Okay. It’s super helpful. Thank you for that detail. And then, back on the topic of commissions, certainly the kind of worry out there is that there would be additional changes compelled, beyond what happened in the Northwest MLS there, for example, a scenario where home buyers kind of have to pay their agents out of pocket as one possibility. So you know from your perspective and really great color around all the proactive efforts you’re making you mentioned something around kind of consolidation. I mean, so Robert, I mean, is this the type of thing where you are hearing from acquisition targets out there? Do you find that this is a type of thing that could drive a brokerages to want to join Compass? And just kind of what’s your thoughts on how that kind of overall industry market and consolidation may take shape?

Robert Reffkin: Yes. So one I just want to reiterate that there is no evidence today that the conditions will be under pressure and also want to make the point that for the likely thousands of agents out there it doesn’t – there are no personally that only were some buyers where they highlight with the commission that they can end independently. And there’s a buyer broker agreement there. Any of those agents don’t – are not worried about this present about this lawsuit in any way at all, because it’s not going to change anything for them. They’re going to sign the same buyer broker agreements in two years, three years, four years they have the last two, three, four years, and it’s been outlined what they charge independently.

And so, I just use that as an example to just reiterate that there isn’t evidence that commissions, particularly for any good agents. Maybe for the worst agents, yes. For any good agents and who really focus like and that agents here at Compass that it won’t create pressure. On the – your question around what’s happening I think in the real estate industry and why there’s an unprecedented number of brokerage firms, CEOs that are that are open to selling. I think that, I think that they are – I think with the average brokerage firm’s CEO, they can be exhausted financially because of the real estate market has been difficult. I think the average broker firm’s CEO can be exhausted culturally because there are agents and their employees haven’t come back to the office with the same energy and the same presence as they did before the pandemic.

I think that they are exhausted competitively as they increasingly see that this – the Compass technology platform that we have built with $1.5 billion dollars of investment behind it and a creative and 500 person team technology team still making it better every single day that they won’t be able to rebuild what Compass has. And then, I think to your point, the unknown around what the trials will lead to and the headache around them of just lawyers and litigation, it has I think led to more people saying is this really what I want to sign up for the next couple years. And so, I think it has contributed to adding an additional layer of exhaustion that makes people reevaluate is this a good time to double down or is it a good time to partner with Compass.

Matthew Bouley: Got it. Well, thank you for that, Robert. Thanks everyone. And good luck.

Robert Reffkin: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Jason Helfstein with Oppenheimer and Company. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst: Hey, thanks. This is Chad on for Jason. A quick one for me. Robert, could you maybe just talk about what new product or feature launch you’re most excited about for 2024? Now either to increase agent productivity or consumer conversion?

Robert Reffkin: Can I give two? All right, well, one would be, it would be solving the majority of team functionality requests that have come from our agents as agents are really small business owners, and many of them work in teams with highly complex multi-party workflows. And we have done a level of that. but I think over the of course of 2024, we will do it to a level that satisfies the majority of the key agent team needs, and I’m really excited about that. The second is the client dashboard. It will – there will be a client dashboard over time for buyers and the other one for sellers, another one for multiple homeowners. It will be the one stop shop for everything home will have the time to transaction timeline there.

All of these tools that we built for agents, where you can send a CMA or tour sheets or collections of client will live in one place. And so, if you want to send it by email, it will be in one place for them before during and after the transaction for the client. And we believe it will be a repeat and referral gold mine with the agent’s branding on, front and center in the client dashboard and it will reinforce the relationship as the real estate advisor with the, with their clients straighten relationships, which is really important in this time to show your value. And so that’s probably – those are the two things I’m most excited about.

Unidentified Analyst: Thanks.

Robert Reffkin: And completing title and escrow integration to the platform in every market, as well as number three.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Lloyd Walmsley with UBS. Please go ahead.

Lloyd Walmsley : Thanks. In terms of just the operating costs, are there, are there plans for perhaps on the shelf where if we don’t see any relief in mortgage rates like if they just keep marching forward, where you can take more operating cost out of the business to ensure you remain at free cash flow positive. I think none of it, well, I’d speak for myself, I did not think rates would be where they are today a year ago. So, if we keep seeing them march up higher, what do you guys contemplate reacting? And then, I guess going back to the industry structure question, how do you think the full, an injunction from the judge in the citric case preventing, sellers from paying lawyers at all? Like is that, would that surprise you?

And if the industry moves in that direction, do you think that would be more, perhaps, more problematic than then what the case study we’re looking at in the Seattle region where it’s simply they’re not required to offer lawyers any compensation?

Robert Reffkin: Maybe I will start with the second and I’ll pass on to Kalani for the first part of your question. So that the settlements that – had still allows sellers to pay a buyer commission. If they certainly make it a requirement. And to my understanding, yeah, their requirement was only a penny and so, that’s why when you take a penny to zero, which I believe is what’s they said on is bring the penny to a zero. That’s why the market norm prevails, because taking penny is into zero will change market norm. Now, which kind of highlights what’s going on here and the different people’s different motivations. But bringing this penny to zero is what they settle on and that brings you to Washington State kind of the Northwest MLS was 80% of the population.

And not allowing sellers to pay the buyer commissions to be really challenging for buyers because right now, because then they would not be able to finance it in the mortgage. And so that’s increased cost for buyers to my knowledge. But again, there isn’t evidence that that is going to be the clear path, versus what has been settled on. And again, for the agents who are how to add a successfully again buyer broker agreements which outlined their commission, it shouldn’t be a risk for those people, which is why we’re making training along those lines a key priority for come through our agents to empower them. With that Kalani?

Kalani Reelitz : Yeah, sure. Thanks, Robert. I think and we mentioned I think, we’ve had what we’ve seen our success was being able to look ahead and make sure that our OpEx is ahead of market conditions. I think that’s again for two things, one to make sure we are ahead of market conditions. Also to make sure we’re maximizing profit and value. I think as we think about our path to 900 down to 850, I think we do have room if we need we will continue to monitor, where, where we go is going to be kind of a continued story of our operational efficiencies we’ve already extracted as part of it. So I think about lowering cost for transactions. So looking at continued efficiencies in our kind of transaction-based cost, obviously, if the market continues, looking at variable cost as revenue declines.

Low cost labor we’ve done a tremendous job so far, but I think we still have opportunity. I think about our back office efforts and continuing to look at low cost labor and efficiencies there, as well as our technology we’ve done and Greg and team has done a really nice job of ensuring that we have a great portfolio. But doing it with low cost labor. And then vendors, I think we will continue to rationalize. We’ll continue to look at lower usage, licensing et cetera. And then, and obviously procurements and lowering rates. So I think we have a bunch of opportunities at our disposal and we’ll continue to monitor. But again, I think, we’re doing both to make sure we react to the market, but also just to continue to drive profit to continue to have free cash flow the more we can optimize through, our kind of discipline of efficiencies.

I think the more profit we’re focused on. So, I hope that helps.

Lloyd Walmsley : All right. Thank you.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Ryan McKeveny with Zelman and Associates. Please go ahead.

Ryan McKeveny: Hey. Thanks a lot, guys. Two questions that are kind of the same, so I’ll ask them at the same time. So on the client dashboard and on the TNE side, both seem very interesting opportunities to expand those. I guess, will in both cases will that require much incremental investment or expense to kind of get where you want to go. Let’s say on the dashboard or with the TNE integrations into more markets or you know maybe on the TN E side is that more of driving revenue opportunity without adding much cost and sending on the client dashboard. Is there much incremental tax spend or whatever expenses they are that needs to, get that to the point of launch expansion into next year?

Robert Reffkin: Yeah, I’m going to pass it on to Greg to answer that. There’s no incremental tax and then also I thought it’d be helpful Greg, he’s really steering Compass AI if you can just maybe chat about why – I don’t know I’ve heard from you say that that’s one of the areas you’re most excited by maybe just share why that is?

Greg Hart : Sure. So, first just to answer the question. No, there’s no incremental expense on us, increasing the investment in technology to be able to either integrate TNE into the platform or to work on client dashboard or Compass AI for that matter. We’ve continued over time to reduce our investment in technology both on an absolute basis, but also on this as a percentage of revenue that yet we still feel very confident in our ability even with, less investment in that area to continue to build for our agents. Compass AI is a great example of that, and we certainly believe that we are in a different position than any of our competitors with respect to our ongoing investment in tech, being a much more impactful one for us than with anybody else is doing in this space.

In terms of Compass AI, Robert mentioned that, one of the reasons that I am a big believer in the impact that Compass AI has already had. But we will also have for our agents is that it takes some of the tasks that agents do all the time. And it makes them much, much, much easier. So it doesn’t do their job for them completely, but it does, 80% to 90% of the job in one second. Writing a list in description, creating a marketing email, creating a social post, you can use Compass AI, type in, a few things that you want to do for a new listing and give me another listing, one, two, three, main street, three bedroom, faces west, third floor and then we will come back to you with a, with a great description you can then tweak it, or you can use the prompts to refine what the AI gives you.

When we’ve done coaching sessions and training sessions on Compass AI with agents, we’ll have thousands of agents in attendance and by far our best attended training sessions that we’ve ever had. And agents rave about it as a huge time saver for them. And it’s also one of those things that gets them over the cold start problem when they’re sitting down to do that. And so, one of the best things about all the investments we’ve made in our technology platform today is it gives a lot of surface area to use AI across. And so Compass AI is the latest example of that that someone, something that we’re continuing to be excited about expanding over time that won’t any incremental investments to do so.

Ryan McKeveny: Great. Thank you very much.

Operator: Our final question comes from the line of Matthew Cost with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Matthew Cost: Hi, everybody. Thanks for squeezing me in here. I guess, you’ve had a pretty clear roadmap that you’ve laid out for the market that we’re in with your transaction volume is really, really low. Prices have not gone down and you’re managing costs, as much as you can. I think you’ve been clear about your goals there. What happens if we tip into a recession scenario from here? Do you look to cut cost even further, you’ve already taken a lot of cost out of the model? Do you kind of stay on the path that you’re on? And then at what point do you lean back in to reinvesting? Because obviously, if we do end up in that scenario, then that’s kind of the darkest moment before they start to recover. Thank you.

Robert Reffkin: Well, look, I think there’s a lot of – the number of people, that would say that if a recession would be good for the real estate at some levels, a recession at some level would be good for the real estate market, because it would lead to the Fed lowering rates, which would bring down, obviously the mortgage rate. And that’s the biggest thing that’s governing the transaction volume in the country where 60% of homeowners are locked in at 4% mortgage rates or below. And so, rolling something four into eight just too much or three into eight is just too much, right, the way it’s a better number now but it was nine months ago, nine months ago, it was 70% we are watching it for. So it looks like over the last nine months it moved from 70% to 60% that that have that significant rate lock issue.

So, yeah, I think a modest recession would be helpful to the mortgage rate. A deeper one would be more, it could contently be more problematic. And in terms of when we turn the investment back on, I think it’s important to be clear that we believe that this isn’t a temporary moment or to just bring expenses back when the market comes back. This is, we are thinking of this as the new normal for a cost base, of course, increasingly with inflation over time. But we’re even at these levels, we have a technology team that’s over 500 people strong, which is likely larger than every other traditional brokerage firm in the industry combines. Or the value that we create, it’s all relative to our competitors. And I think the distance between us and our competition has widened every year over the last three years.

And so, for that reason, we don’t need to put on massive dollars to invest. We can just continue being the company at these new levels and taking advantage of efficiencies, to be able to earn the right to invest in by creating more profit over time. But I don’t think that’s going to be the area of focus and then creating more investment right now.

Matthew Cost: Okay. Thank you.

Operator: I would now like to turn the call over to Robert Reffkin for closing remarks.

Robert Reffkin: Look, thank you everyone for joining today’s call. So I just want to take these final moments of the call to thank all of the Compass employees and all of the Compass agents for their hard work and commitment to making Compass the number one real estate brokerage by sales volume in the United States for the second year in a row in a difficult, market or even continue to outperform and I just want to say thank you. We continue to successfully manage our expenses down and are prepared for the uncertainty of 2024. Eventually, the real estate market will come back and when it does, I am incredibly confident that Compass is well positioned for incredible success. Thank you everyone. Bye.

Operator: I’d like to thank our speakers for today’s presentation, and thank you all for joining us. This now concludes today’s call and you may now disconnect.