Compass Diversified (NYSE:CODI) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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But I think that’s something that the Fed and economists will generally have to play kind of think about and plan out for us and where we’re looking for 2023, things feel relatively robust. And so, I think when we get through this inventory destocking, there’s nothing that makes us feel like our core growth rate or even exceeding our core growth rate isn’t possible given some of the dynamics that exist within the consumer today.

Larry Solow: Okay, I appreciate it.

Pat Maciariello: Larry, on BOA last year they were front end loaded, a little bit maybe in ’21, but not historically as front end loaded as that. I think clearly they will be more back end loaded this year than last year and probably in ’21 just to clarify

Larry Solow: PrimaLoft – which is usually, I believe, well, at least last year was much more front end loaded?

Pat Maciariello: PrimaLoft will still be much stronger in the front end than in the back end. What’s happening is our customers are ordering the products later and later, because they don’t have the supply chain worries that they did a year ago or even two years ago. And so, we may get a little bleed, a little more bleed into Q3 and Q3 maybe proportionally a little bit bigger than typical, but it’ll still be a largely front end business.

Larry Solow: Okay. If I can just slip one more question. Just on a simplistic level, the EBITDA dropping $470 million to $440 million that’s mostly on the sale of ACI. How come – on the adjusted net income goes from $160 million to $120 million. I mean, I guess it’s the ACI EBITDA is that little tax and then there’s the higher interest expense. But don’t you also get back some interest expense on the sale of ACI? And you had pilot for full year last or full year this year. So I’m just trying to connect those two – those dots?

Ryan Faulkingham: Yes, Larry, you’re right. It’s come down. The numbers you highlighted are accurate. And you’re correct, the sale of ACI, which was a pretty good adjusted earnings contributor, just given that business model. But yes, it’s primarily interest cost, right? We’ve got – at year end, we had the $395 million of Term A plus the $155 million revolver or floating, right? And you’ve seen that rate go from roughly 1% call it a year, 0% year and a half ago to now over 4%. So that’s meaningful to adjusted earnings. No slowdown I’d say in general in terms of operating opportunity from the businesses, it’s really corporate costs that’s overlaying that.

Larry Solow: So it’s really that $20 million interest plus the sale base yes, I guess it’s really what’s doing it?

Ryan Faulkingham: Correct.

Larry Solow: Okay, I appreciate the color guy.

Ryan Faulkingham: Yes.

Larry Solow: Okay, that makes sense. Thanks so much guys.

Elias Sabo: Thank you, Larry.

Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Matt Koranda from ROTH. Matt Koranda, your line is now open.

Elias Sabo: Matt.

Matt Koranda: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. So just wanted to make sure I understood the inventory destocking commentary more specifically. So it sounds like it may be more acute with OEMs versus retailers, but wanted to see if you could parse that out for us? And then also just it sounds like you’re signaling destocking cycle goes in the first half, but then we should pick up in the back half of the year. Just any data points on your comfort that things can get better in the second half? What are you seeing in terms of the order books? Maybe they give you comfort there, that’s my first question?

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