CNH Industrial N.V. (NYSE:CNHI) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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Scott Wine: Remember, we are significantly more exposed to the ag cycle than we are to the global GDP. So, we call it an ag cycle for a reason which means that it is not a flat line. And it doesn’t go in one direction forever. And we have had a very high market, and I am not actually not at all talking about a peak year, but I am just saying we had a very strong market here. And I am acknowledging with other global inputs that may at some point impact ag demand. ’24 may be a year that isn’t as strong as others. I mean that’s not a negative. It’s not a negative comment. It’s just a fact actually.

Michael Feniger: Alright, understood. Just to squeeze one last in like you did see this inflection in your industrial net debt, ahead of times, some of the cash generation from the business in ’22. Just — I know you are aggressively investing in a business. How can we think about the fact that you inflected on your industrial net debt ahead of time? And how should we think about that in terms of potentially share repurchases to kind of close maybe your valuation discount to peers? How you kind of look at that? I know you are aggressively investing in R&D and CapEx. But just lever to pull, how are you thinking of that?

Oddone Incisa: So, let me take this one. We set very clearly our capital allocation priorities. We say that we are investing more in R&D, as you pointed out. We stepped up our dividend. In 2022, we went back in doing share repurchase at levels that probably we hadn’t done in the past. We want to continue doing share repurchases in 2023. So, that’s part of the mix that we have in there. And then, we also want to have some availability for some sort of M&A in particularly in the tech space if that helps profitable growth there.

Michael Feniger: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you, all. And now we have time for one final question, from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst: Hi, thanks very much for taking my last question. I guess I just wanted to touch on cash. Your guidance for ’23 sort of sees weaker cash conversion. So, I was wondering maybe you could just comment a bit more on what you are seeing there? And sort of what the moving parts are? Thank you.

Scott Wine: Yes. Again, I’ll use the opportunity to answer your question just to thank the team for delivering such strong cash flow in the fourth quarter, which gave us a reasonable for the year. We are expecting another billion dollar-plus I think to $1.3 billion to $1.5 billion range of cash flow in 2023. But we are spending several hundred million dollars more in CapEx. Again, part of our strategy is bringing new products to market that do allow us to have higher gross margins and gain market share. So, those things don’t come free. So, we are going to spend more money to get that, and that’s really the key driving factor of it. We will still be discipline with inventories and managing that, but that will be the differentiator between year-over-year cash flow generations.

Unidentified Analyst: Fair, thank you.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for your participation. Ladies and gentlemen, you may now disconnect.

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