Ceridian HCM Holding Inc. (NYSE:CDAY) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

David Ossip: Yeah. So I’ll start with the latter. If you look at the month of December, Noemie I think it was about a $3 million

Noemie Heuland: Benefit.

David Ossip: benefit inside that. I assume we could just extrapolate for the year. In terms of the gross margin on recurring, as you mentioned we ended the year on an adjusted basis at 76.2%, which was up about 250 basis points. If we look towards Q1, we would expect that it would go up probably between 1% to 2% relative to Q1 of last year. And for the entire year, I would expect us to probably make progress towards the rule — to the 80% target that we’re hitting by 2025. And so you’ll probably see it go up by about another percentage or so over the course of the year.

Noemie Heuland: Yeah. Bryan, I think the best way to look at it if you look at our cloud recurring gross margin progression, we’ve always said that we’re aiming to be close to 80% by 2026 and we’re going to make progress every year and that’s going to be pretty linear until then. And when it comes to flow, you may remember that when we come out of 2022, we had a pretty significant increase in our cloud recurring gross margin with the work we did in automation, as well as using our shared services centers in APJ. So we continue to see the benefits of that throughout 2023, but you’ll see less of an impact and progression in 2023. It’s going to be more linear going forward until we reach 80%.

Bryan Bergin: Okay. Thank you for the detail.

David Ossip: Just one thing that I would do on the long-term range plan is that I do believe the 30% adjusted EBITDA target with the sales commission changes moves to — by the end of 2025 as opposed to 2026. So it moves the — it brings it in by about a year.

Bryan Bergin: Okay. Understood.

Operator: Thanks Bryan. Our next question comes from Bhavin Shah of Deutsche Bank.

Bhavin Shah: Great. Thanks for taking my question, and congrats on a strong quarter. Just following up on some of the exact changes that you made just on the promotion of Steve, can you just maybe elaborate a little bit more on why you think it’s best to consolidate the role of CRO under him versus maybe replacing Rocky? And then how are you thinking about or handicapping maybe the potential for any disruption if at all?

Leagh Turner: Yeah, I’ll take that. First of all, nice to talk to you Bhavin. Thank you very much. I’ll say a few things that we noted during the call. We — David and I talked about this, I don’t know David what four years ago about moving toward this structure eventually. In order to be able to do it, we needed stability and scale in each of the customer facing functions. And we knew that we had to go on a journey to be able to do that. But it’s a structure and a target model that we always wanted to move to because of the fact that we allow — it allows us to have like complete full visibility and alignment throughout the entire customer life cycle. We care a lot about delivering quantifiable value to our customers. So this allows us to set the measure for quantifiable value in the sales process, to bring it to life through the renewal — or excuse me through the go-live process and then to measure it consistently throughout the renewal process.

And we believe that that will make us market differentiated. And it will allow us to be the transformation partner, not sales partner, services partner, support partner, but actual life cycle transformation partner that we believe that we can be and that we can focus deeply on value. I will say I think that there will be zero disruptions. Steve is here with us, as is Greg George who leads North American sales. And as you would know that’s the lion’s share of our business today and they have been well aligned, all the way out through this entire last couple of years and through this change. I would also say Rocky did an awesome job. He was with us for a couple of years. He did exactly what we asked him to do, which was to upgrade and globalize our team to increase our value-based selling and transformation-based selling.

And he and Steve have been partners for the last couple of years really working on that quantifiable value throughout the entire customer life cycle. And I think he’s built a great culture, great leaders. And I think that there will be little-to-no disruption at all. And so what we’ve been able to do as a result of this change is to take some of the savings and efficiency and drive it back into our business investing in brands and telling our story. So I think frankly we’re going to see forward momentum. As a result the team is super happy and we’re just like onwards and upwards.

Bhavin Shah: Appreciate the valuable response, Leagh. Just maybe one question on float to follow-up. Can you just maybe help us understand maybe the delta between the 1Q guidance of $45 million versus the full year of $150 million which roughly implies $100 million for the following three quarters. I would have thought if anything that should be stable as we go into 2Q and beyond. Anything that we should keep in mind as it relates to this going forward?

Noemie Heuland: So on Q1, you got to — there’s a bit of seasonality going on higher volumes in Q1 with the end of the year processing and the tax volume as well. And then we’ve reflected the most recent interest rate environment. But as we — as I said on my prepared remarks, I think the upward variability for 2023 is going to be a little bit of less magnitude than it was in 2022 simply because the interest rate environment starts to normalize and we factored that into our guidance for 2023.

Bhavin Shah: Appreciate it. Thank you again for taking my questions.

Operator: Thanks, Bhavin. Our next question comes from Robert Simmons of D.A. Davidson.

Robert Simmons: Hey. Thanks for taking my questions. I was wondering what countries of will have you to add native payroll to that you might in the relative near term?

David Ossip: I’m sorry I didn’t quite hear the question.

Leagh Turner: What countries will we add natives payroll to in the relative near term I think.