And I think I said here in one of the answers that even orders were back up to levels that were from pretty healthy times. So the early indications are good. We’re going to keep our eye on it. There’s a lot going on in the economy. There’s still uncertainty out there. And I think all that stuff connect (ph) have to unfold for us to really know how things are going to shape up for the year. I think for the industry shipments, I’m talking calendar years now, started off with an unbelievably strong first half to push in three quarters of the year, and we finished up overall in shipments as an industry, but that was with the tail off there in the last couple of months. I think Mark (ph) might have the data, I think November was seasonally adjusted rate of November industry shipments was down in the mid-90,000 range.
So there was a bit of a tail off there. We’re probably going to start off a little slow in this calendar year. And if things go well, it will be a reverse of last year. That’s what we’re kind of hoping for.
Jay McCanless: Got you. We’ve seen mortgage rates come down really since October. Are you seeing the same type of decline in mortgage rates for chattel (ph)?
Bill Boor: No. Chattel states, chattel is a fancy sticky. So we haven’t seen chattel move really at all over the last couple of months. It tends to be independent of land home rates. So nothing to note as far as improvement there. Net chattel rates, I’m looking around because I don’t have all the data. I think chattel rates are running in the high 8%s to low 9% right now.
Jay McCanless: That’s good to know. Thank you.
Bill Boor: about half the year.
Jay McCanless: Got you. And then — and I apologize if you might touch on this earlier, but just what are you hearing from the park operators these days? How are they thinking about ’23 and what should we expect to hear from them?
Bill Boor: Yeah. I mean there’s been a bit of a rock in the whole thing. They’ve just been staying and I’m generalizing, but I think it’s a good generalization that community operators, it’s particularly large REITs that we deal with quite a bit. They’ve been pretty steady with significant growth plans, a lot of capital put to work, and they’ve got lots that they can’t get paid for if they don’t get a house on them. So I’ve talked in the past that there’s — I use a term buffer a little bit, maybe too often talking about this industry. But one of the buffers, I think we have is downturns really is within the communities where their model may be to have a person own their home and come put it on one of their lots, so they can get the land lease payments, but they also are doing a lot of buying homes and renting them.
And so they kind of become a solution for that homebuyer that can’t afford right now to own. And I think that gives some resiliency to those community operators when we look at it from a demand perspective. So they’ve been very consistent. I don’t think there’s been much at all of waning in their demand through this whole period.
Jay McCanless: That’s great to hear. I mean, what do you think now is the mix of community operators versus retail dealers and maybe versus what it was last year?
