Bio-Techne Corporation (NASDAQ:TECH) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

That being said, as we look forward, and again, more optimistic view coming out of last quarter and going into this quarter than we did prior quarter in that run rates as we talked about it stabilized in China. And we’re just seeing overall stabilization in our business as we enter this quarter relative to how we entered Q2. But I will temper that a bit by saying just like last quarter, a few weeks or even a month doesn’t necessarily make a trend either. But we definitely have seen a bit of a momentum shift or at least stabilization from where we are at this point going into this quarter versus last quarter.

Puneet Soda: Okay, that’s helpful. Maybe on the guide, Jim, I just wanted to clarify that you expect this quarter to be a low point based on the comments you mentioned about China early signs and stabilization there and Biopharma remaining status quo. Maybe just help us think about the next two quarters or for the full year just in terms of where models are? If you could walk us through your assumptions on how you’re thinking about the growth rate here. I appreciate any context on that.

James Hippel: Sure. Well, I would say this. I mean, I talk about that we have a sense that the deceleration is slowing and perhaps stopping. And so what I mean by that is, and I think you’ve heard this many of our peers already, that kind of expect our Q3 to be somewhat similar to our Q2 in terms of organic growth. Beyond that, it’s difficult to call. The whole bottoming process has been difficult to call. But I pretty much agree with what’s being set out there by our larger companies who have even greater overall market access that it feels like the first half of the year, ’24 will be more difficult than the second half. But we’ll obviously get into our planning process here in about three or four months and have more to talk about our fiscal year, ’25 following that. But that’s pretty much, our view is pretty much consistent with what you’re hearing from our peer companies.

Operator: Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Jacob Johnson with Stephens. Please proceed with your questions.

Jacob Johnson: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Maybe just first to unpack the biopharma commentary. The release suggests those kind of headwinds increased in December. Can you just talk to kind of what you saw then? What caused that or what you think caused that? Maybe the evil CFOs, Jim. And then just as we look ahead, kind of what are you seeing from that end market to start the year? Have you seen any kind of change in customer behaviors, the calendar’s turned?

James Hippel: I’ll start off and I like to comment perhaps, since you mentioned the evil CFO comment. I think that’s partly what it was in a sense that I talked about in some prior conferences that in talking to our customers, the interest is as high, it’s not highest it’s ever been in our products, but getting purchases through, particularly large, any larger purchases through their internal purchasing departments or their finance departments was difficult and there was a sense of hold off until the next calendar year and calendar year budgets are set. And so we’ll see if that actually materializes this quarter but there was definitely that conversation, those conversations going on with our customers. But I think, quantitatively, there’s been a number of reports put out there by analysts who file very closely the biotech funding and they all basically say that biotech funding was down over 20% in the December quarter and I think down sequentially, like in the mid-teens even.

So there was definitely a drop off in biotech funding and that’s a decent chunk of our business. So I think that goes without saying that was a clear driver for what occurred within the quarter.

Kim Kelderman: Yeah, let me add to that. You know, obviously, biopharma market has been constrained by lower funding than usual. If not mistaken, we’ve probably hit the lowest point since 2016. However, our portfolio is well positioned, right? So we have in the quarter the highest quality products that will produce and give you the best results. So you don’t have to repeat your experiments, which of course is important in a constrained environment like this. And secondly, our implementation portfolio is to optimize efficiency. So to have fewer people in the laboratory to automate clunky processes, that will give you the efficiencies you need and the reproducibility in your results that you need. So overall, a portfolio is tailored to a constrained environment like this one and I think therefore that we will come out strong once funding normalized.

James Hippel: Now I’ll just reiterate what Kim talked about in his opening comments to reinforce that, is that our consumables on our instrument platforms were up again this quarter nearly 20% and they’d been up 20% or more every quarter for the past four quarters in this has been a declining market overall the past year. So I think that’s a clear sign of how our tools provide the productivity that our customers need in an environment like this. Not to mention the potential pent-up demand for new instruments once funding becomes more prevalent.

Jacob Johnson: Got it. Thanks for all that. And then my follow-up. Kim, you mentioned earlier this year and then on this call again that given the current environment you can look more internally at your footprint and efficiencies. I think there was a restructuring charge in the quarter as well. Can you just elaborate on that statement and kind of what efforts are you taking right now and maybe for Jim how we should think about the impact of those on margins?

Kim Kelderman: Yeah, thanks Jacob. As I think about the constraint environment you always got to make sure that you tailor your organization to be most efficient in such environments. Not only to protect the bottom line but also to make sure that you’re most efficient coming out of such constraint period. So yes, we’ve looked at level loading the capacity of our employees over certain businesses in certain pockets, volumes and revenues are more down in others. So we of course want to make sure that we do the right things there from a worse power point of view. And then secondly, it’s a good time to look at which businesses are core and strategic to you. And in our case we found some businesses where there’s either a growth profile and or a bottom line profile that doesn’t fit our long-term financial strategies and expectations and or businesses that take this proportional amount of management attention and that do not have synergies with our current channels or products.

So those are businesses that we will evaluate and over time we’ll divest.

Jacob Johnson: Got it. Thanks for taking the questions. Oh, sorry, go ahead Jim.

James Hippel: I was going to say with regards to the impact to margins. So what this does is some of the actions we’re taking gives us a much higher level of confidence that the margins reported this quarter will be the low point for the year and we’ll progress sequentially going forward. And I know you’re going to ask me how much and I think we’re targeting to get back into the mid-30% range by the end of the year for Q4.

Operator: Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Dan Arias with Stifel. Please proceed with your questions.

Dan Arias: Good morning guys. Thanks for the questions. Kim or Chuck can you just maybe talk a little bit about the antibodies business and the antibodies market just given that there are a decent number of moving parts in the mix when it comes to the environment and environment, It would just be great to get some color on what you think is relevant when it comes to the portfolio, pricing, share changes, etc.?